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IBM says it won't assert patents against Linux kernel
InfoWorld ^ | August 04, 2004 | Ed Scannell

Posted on 08/06/2004 2:56:30 PM PDT by rdb3

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1 posted on 08/06/2004 2:56:31 PM PDT by rdb3
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2 posted on 08/06/2004 2:57:41 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: snopercod

Went to another optician, today, and noticed that their whole office system is based on Red Hat Linux.


3 posted on 08/06/2004 3:05:18 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: rdb3; snopercod; joanie-f
The open movement, which Donofrio sees happening in many industries outside of computer software, is forcing people to rethink their various intellectual property models and to rethink where it is they can offer the most value to their respective users.

Yes; it is really bothering investors who have spent a lot of time and money on modeling future cash flows, based upon the old, till now, intellectual property models.

That is why Forbes and the Alexis de Toqueville funds (and donors) crowd is supporting SCO, at least in public.

The intellectual property people want every subroutine to be a royalty-due piece of sheet music, and probably the "music industry" does, too.

When the barn door was left open decades ago.

Over the last 5 decades, at any given time, the propability is high, that computer code will found to be identical among several hundred or even thousand authors, and, that their notes explaining their routines' designs, will also be identical.

Among two thousand computer engineers, or mechanical engineers, or electrical engineers, they are likely to produce identically, products, and descriptions.

Take two thousand engineers, give them the same widget, and have them write a description of it ... you are going to find a few dozen at the minium, whose wording is exactly the same ... and you'll probably find a few whose handwriting is a match.

IMHO

4 posted on 08/06/2004 3:17:28 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: rdb3

"...diversity of the world..."
"...collaborative innovation..."
"When more people have access to..."

That's a lot of Commie talk coming from Mr. IBM. Reminds me of Linux and Open Source.


5 posted on 08/06/2004 3:26:52 PM PDT by ryanjb2
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To: ryanjb2
That's a lot of Commie talk coming from Mr. IBM. Reminds me of Linux and Open Source.

Which means you don't know a damn thing about either.


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6 posted on 08/06/2004 3:28:28 PM PDT by rdb3 (Mama used 2 say...)
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To: Golden Eagle

It would be amusing if some enterprising individual were to implement a patented, strategically important IBM mainframe technology (ie. one that IBM derives significant revenue from) to Linux, and watch their lawyers' heads spin...


7 posted on 08/06/2004 3:36:32 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
A friend tells me that you can already run an IBM mainframe emulator under Linux...
8 posted on 08/06/2004 4:13:21 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: rdb3

Do they have it in writing?

No?


9 posted on 08/06/2004 4:16:28 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: First_Salute
The intellectual property people want every subroutine to be a royalty-due piece of sheet music.

It's an interesting problem. I have been miffed for many years that engineers and designers mostly get nothing for inventing the greatest things that people use every day. Yet hundreds or thousands of pierced/tatooed/cornrowed/coked-up "musicians" each get a nickle everytime some radio station plays the dissonant jangle that passes for "their music" these days.

Out of fairness and consistency, I think engineers, designers, and creaters of all kinds should be treated the same as musicians.

Use a tie-wrap, pay a penny. Use a ball-point pen, pay a penny. Use those intermittent wipers on your automobile windshield, pay a penny. You get the idea.

Either that or pay musicians and actors by the hour like everybody else.

Maybe I'm just upset because I never got a dime for inventing the "Walk-Man" in 1958.

10 posted on 08/06/2004 4:17:31 PM PDT by snopercod (What we have lost will not be returned to us.)
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To: Bush2000
Free Software? Not For You, Baby
11 posted on 08/06/2004 4:19:45 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: rdb3

What is a "kernel"?


12 posted on 08/06/2004 4:21:17 PM PDT by joonbug
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To: snopercod
Yet hundreds or thousands of pierced/tatooed/cornrowed/coked-up "musicians" each get a nickle everytime some radio station plays the dissonant jangle that passes for "their music" these days.

Hey! Nothing wrong with cornrows. Nothing at all.


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13 posted on 08/06/2004 4:22:48 PM PDT by rdb3 (Mama used 2 say...)
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To: rdb3

anti-IP links:

http://praxeology.net/anticopyright.htm


14 posted on 08/06/2004 4:23:19 PM PDT by society-by-contract
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To: Question_Assumptions; Bush2000

...and I know that you can run Linux in a mainframe LPAR.


15 posted on 08/06/2004 4:33:24 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Nick Danger

looks like you are right.


16 posted on 08/06/2004 5:18:38 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: rdb3
They need to post a written document. Spoken words won't mean much if they actuall go after a linux distro. Maybe they should make a written commitment to never charge for linux while they are at it.
17 posted on 08/06/2004 5:22:55 PM PDT by GeorgiaFreeper (Hitlery does not have fat ankles. That's where the hooves show through above the foot prosthetics.)
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To: ryanjb2
That's a lot of Commie talk coming from Mr. IBM. Reminds me of Linux and Open Source.

What the heck does that mean? If using Linux means you are a commie I've been one since about 1991.

Nobody told me this. Do I have to give all the money I've made from Linux back? I don't think so.

18 posted on 08/06/2004 6:42:09 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Strategery - "W" plays poker with one hand and chess with the other.)
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To: GeorgiaFreeper; Golden Eagle; rdb3
Golden Eagle Do they have it in writing? No?
GeorgiaFreeper They need to post a written document.

Wow, such mistrust of IBM here! But then again, I guess you're used to Micr'soft.

The interesting thing is, y'all agree with Bruce Perens!

Not far enough?

Bruce Perens, an open-source advocate who says he expects a patent attack to shut down the open-source movement, called for even more in a response Wednesday. He said he wanted a signed covenant in addition to a pledge, and defense help if open-source programmers or users are sued.

"I would like to hear from IBM, HP, etc., that when the suits come, they're going to stand by me" when Microsoft sues, "not stand on the sidelines. I'm going to be in court about 10 days if no knight in shining armor comes to rescue me. After 10 days, I'm going to have to sign a settlement."

19 posted on 08/06/2004 10:28:51 PM PDT by TechJunkYard (http://scaryjohnkerry.com/)
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To: ryanjb2
While there are out-and-out commies in the open-source community, there are also hard-core capitalists in the same arena (moi for example). It just so happens that a lot of professional programmers also have a hobby of programming for the heck of it. Heaven knows that I've been guilty of porting more than one Unix app to VMS in my spare time.

I have no problem with people getting a profit from their efforts. Likewise, I have no problem with people donating their time gratis. I do have a hard time with some of the exploitation and knavery done...
20 posted on 08/06/2004 10:42:44 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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