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Veteran retracts criticism of Kerry (Vet Says Misquoted-Stands by Original Statement)
Boston Globe ^ | August 6, 2004 | Michael Kranish

Posted on 08/06/2004 1:31:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Elliott said he was no under personal or political pressure to sign the statement, but he did feel ''time pressure" from those involved in the book. ''That's no excuse," Elliott said. ''I knew it was wrong . . . In a hurry I signed it and faxed it back. That was a mistake."

The affidavit also contradicted earlier statements by Elliott, who came to Boston during Kerry's 1996 Senate campaign to defend Kerry on similar charges, saying that Kerry acted properly and deserved the Silver Star.

The book, ''Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry," is to be published next week. Yesterday it reached number one on the bestseller list on Amazon.com, based on advance orders, in part because of publicity about it on the Drudge Report.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biaspress; bostonglobe; elliott; georgeelliott; johnkerry; kranish; lyingpress; swiftboat; swiftboatveterans; unfitforcommand
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1 posted on 08/06/2004 1:31:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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***Elliott, in the interview yesterday, said that based on the affidavits of the veterans on other boats, he now thinks his assessment about the Bronze Star and third Purple Heart may have been based on poor information.

In one affidavit, for example, Van O'Dell, who said he had been in a boat near Kerry on that day, declared that Kerry had ''lied" about what happened on that day and said that Rassmann was not under enemy fire when Kerry pulled him aboard.

Elliott, asked about the contradiction between his recommendation and his new questioning of Kerry's third Purple Heart, responded, ''It makes me look kind of silly, to be perfectly honest."

But he said: ''I simply have no reason for these guys to be lying, and if they are lying in concert, it is one hell of a conspiracy. So, on the basis of all of the information that has come out, I have chosen to believe the other men. I absolutely do not know first hand."***

2 posted on 08/06/2004 1:37:31 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The rat media onslaught begins...
3 posted on 08/06/2004 1:38:42 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Do Chernobyl restaurants serve Curied chicken?)
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To: Jeff Chandler; Cincinatus' Wife

good morning and thank you for the post, I agree the gloves are off


4 posted on 08/06/2004 1:46:43 AM PDT by Former Military Chick (I previously posted under Military Chick)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This is totally bizarre. Whether Kerry shot the VC in the back is irrelevant. If the VC had a weapon and was fleeing or charging he was still a legitimate target. What is totally ridiculous is winning a Silver Star for it. If he gets a medal for shooting the enemy then the award is meaningless since it takes no exceptional bravery or selflessness to shoot at the enemy.

As to getting a purple heart for having his arm bruised....c'monnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!

I must write my congressmen. It now appears I am entitled to about 15 purple hearts, and medals possibly as high as Distinguished Service Cross for the time I cut my finger opening a beer can when a mortar round landed a little too close and caused me to flinch. I needed two band-aids and it actually bled!


5 posted on 08/06/2004 1:46:44 AM PDT by Casloy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I don't think the swift boat thing will have any traction.

Bush needs to ignore Kerry and focus on his own record.

All this other stuff distraction.

6 posted on 08/06/2004 1:47:04 AM PDT by zarf
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To: zarf

is distraction.,..


7 posted on 08/06/2004 1:47:50 AM PDT by zarf
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It's too bad Kerry can't clear any of this stuff up by, say, releasing his Military records.


8 posted on 08/06/2004 1:48:17 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"I served with these guys. I went on missions with them, and these men served honorably. Up and down the chain of command there was no acquiescence to atrocities. It was not condoned, it did not happen, and it was not reported to me verbally or in writing by any of these men including Lt.(jg) Kerry.

In 1971, '72, for almost 18 months, he stood before the television audiences and claimed that the 500,000 men and women in Vietnam, and in combat, were all villains -- there were no heroes. In 2004, one hero from the Vietnam War has appeared, running for President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief. It just galls one to think about it."

-- Captain George Elliott, USN (retired)


9 posted on 08/06/2004 1:51:59 AM PDT by Former Military Chick (I previously posted under Military Chick)
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To: zarf

You keep repeating your statement on every thread on this subject. You seem to be unaware that Bush has NOTHING to do with this ad or these Vets. If you have FACTS to prove otherwise please provide them along with a link.


10 posted on 08/06/2004 1:53:22 AM PDT by hobson
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Interesting Times
I wonder if the Boston Globe asked Mr. Elliott if he had received any threats, any harrassment, any email virus, any phone calls about his position?

I bet we never know.

Regards,

TS

11 posted on 08/06/2004 1:55:30 AM PDT by The Shrew (A dollar a day won't cure your addiction to FR but it will make you feel better. Join me!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They are all lying, and I am going to prove it tomorrow! Stay tuned for my post......


12 posted on 08/06/2004 1:59:13 AM PDT by The Bandit
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To: Casloy

I think you have nailed two important points.

1 - You shouldn't get a medal for shooting the enemy. In fact, in a Globe article some time back, his CO said Kerry's aggressiveness in chasing the enemy is what weighed on his mind - that he debated court martialling Kerry for recklessly endangering his boat by beaching it, but decided it was brave as well as stupid. Personally, I don't think Kerry did squat all that day - but engaging the enemy is NOT Silver Star material.

2 - a Purple Heart for a BRUISE? YGBSM! It would be shameful for anyone to put themselves in for one, and shameful for anyone to approve it.


13 posted on 08/06/2004 2:05:01 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

OMG, they've gotten to him.


14 posted on 08/06/2004 2:17:24 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: Mr Rogers
The fraud.


Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry salutes at the start of his speech at Democratic National Convention in Boston, July 29, 2004. Kerry promised to restore the world's respect for America and 'ask hard questions' before taking the country to war. (Brian Snyder/Reuters)

15 posted on 08/06/2004 2:18:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: BlessedBeGod
OMG, they've gotten to him.

Not really but the article does it's best to confuse.

16 posted on 08/06/2004 2:19:55 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hey Dems! All this anti-Kerry vietnam stuff is right out of the Democratic party play book. Remember "Farenheit 9/11?" You had nothing to do with that, did you? A third party put together a movie highly critical of Bush and you loved it. Now, to quote the ketchup lady, "shove it."


17 posted on 08/06/2004 2:21:38 AM PDT by Casloy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Mainstream press typical reaction.

No one questions Soros' millions to 527's, but one guy gives $100,000 to a Republican 527's and suddenly we have a huge conspiracy.

I don't know if the Swiftvets ad will have traction or not, but I do think Kerry's legal manuevering to keep the speech from the airwaves could cause problems for his campaign.

Problem is....will anybody in the mainstream press ask Kerry the questions that need to be asked about this issue (trying to muzzle the ad)?

Sorry, but I don't hold out much hope for that.


18 posted on 08/06/2004 2:22:05 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
So if Kerry served so honorably, why is he holding back his fitness reports, the paper on his medals and everything else other than a carefully culled fraction of his record?

If he served so well, then what is he hiding?

His campaign demanded that Bush release his full service record and the President did that.

But we're still waiting for Kerry to do likewise. If he wants to prove the Swiftboat Vets wrong, it's easy -- just submit his form 180 and authorize both the Washington Times and the New York Times to receive and publish his entire service record. End of controversy.

But he's not doing that, so what is he hiding?

19 posted on 08/06/2004 2:28:04 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: dawn53
No one questions Soros' millions to 527's, but one guy gives $100,000 to a Republican 527's and suddenly we have a huge conspiracy.

How much money has Teresa Heinz given to left-wing 527's?

Sure would be interesting to see those tax returns along with all of Kerry's military / medical records.

20 posted on 08/06/2004 2:31:02 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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