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To: RobFromGa

When debating a liberal, they stated that it was people that just KNEW him, but that the actual vets who were on HIS boat loved him. That five of them were supporting him and the only other one that wasn't is dead.

Does anyone know anything about this?


24 posted on 08/05/2004 10:25:33 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: sandbar
When debating a liberal, they stated that it was people that just KNEW him, but that the actual vets who were on HIS boat loved him. That five of them were supporting him and the only other one that wasn't is dead.

The only people supporting him are the guys who served under him. His fellow Swift boat skippers and his superiors know him just as well as the ones who were on his boat. There is one enlisted man (Steve(?) Gardner) who served under him and is adamantly against him. He's also part of the SWBfT group.

45 posted on 08/05/2004 10:31:34 AM PDT by Bob
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To: sandbar
When debating a liberal, they stated that it was people that just KNEW him, but that the actual vets who were on HIS boat loved him. That five of them were supporting him and the only other one that wasn't is dead. Does anyone know anything about this?

1. If most of Kerry's fellow Swift veterans don't support him, then who were all those guys with him at the Democratic Convention? They made it appear that Kerry has the complete support of his "Band of Brothers" from Vietnam.

John Kerry has been able to convince about 13 men who served on Swift boats in the Mekong Delta to support him, 7 or 8 of whom were at various times crew members on his own 6-man boat. Those are the men the Kerry campaign so prominently featured at the Democratic Convention. The photograph we have posted at SwiftVets.com shows Kerry with 19 of his fellow Swift boat OICs (Officers In Charge) in Coastal Division 11. Four OICs were not present for the photograph. Only one of his 23 fellow OICs from Coastal Division 11 supports John Kerry.

Overall, more than 250 Swift boat veterans are on the record questioning Kerry's fitness to serve as Commander-in-Chief. That list includes his entire chain of command -- every single officer Kerry served under in Vietnam. The Kerry game plan is to ignore all this and pretend that the 13 veterans his campaign jets around the country and puts up in 5-star hotels really represent the truth about his short, controversial combat tour.

The Swift boats fought in groups, so the other OICs who fought alongside Kerry know him well and can accurately describe what he did and did not do. In many cases Kerry's fellow OICs had a better perspective than his own crew members, since the latter had no way to determine whether he was following orders and how well he worked with his peers. http://www.swiftvets.com/index.php?topic=FAQ

85 posted on 08/05/2004 10:55:14 AM PDT by gilliam
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This was on Drudge today in the article "McCain condemns anti-Kerry ad..."

Hoffmann said none of the 13 veterans in the commercial served on Kerry's boat but rather were in other swiftboats within 50 yards of Kerry's. The group claims that there was no gunfire on the day Kerry pulled Rassmann from a muddy river in the Mekong Delta and that Kerry's arm was not wounded, as he has claimed.

117 posted on 08/05/2004 11:47:06 AM PDT by RottiBiz (Help end Freepathons -- become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: sandbar

a) SKERRY is exceedingly skillful at manipulating people and institutions.

b) Lots of people would easily dream lots of fantasies about being a best buddy with the PRESIDENT OF THE USA.

c) If SKERRY were to win the election (GOD FORBID!), it would be interesting how many times he gave them the time of day--especially a 2nd term.


161 posted on 08/05/2004 2:36:06 PM PDT by Quix (PRAYER WARRIORS, DO YOUR STUFF! LIVES AND NATIONS DEPEND ON IT)
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It was a six-man crew, but Kerry had at least 2 boats,first in CanRanh, then Mekong. (and probably at least 2 crews) Plus people rotated in and out. I would guess his total crewmates number was 15-20 different individuals.


176 posted on 08/05/2004 3:55:39 PM PDT by cookcounty ("NIXON sent me to Vietnam!!!" --JfK, lying about his 1968 arrival in-country UNDER PRESIDENT LBJ.)
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