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Hanoi John is truly beyond a fraud, beyond even the slimiest of slime.
1 posted on 08/04/2004 11:25:25 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: Steven W.
Hanoi John is truly beyond a fraud, beyond even the slimiest of slime.

The scary thing is that we said the same thing about Clinton - TWICE!
The voters put him in, anyway.

2 posted on 08/04/2004 11:42:24 PM PDT by grobdriver
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How does this man continue to live with himself?


3 posted on 08/04/2004 11:42:35 PM PDT by oolatec
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To: Steven W.

He was in Cambodia before he wasn't in Cambodia.


4 posted on 08/04/2004 11:45:04 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Steven W.

Bump for a later read.


5 posted on 08/04/2004 11:46:08 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Some of my best friends are white, middle-class males.)
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To: Steven W.
NYT

The Kerry campaign immediately denounced the group, noting that none of the men had actually served on the Swift boats that Mr. Kerry commanded, like Gene Thorson, who told reporters, "These assertions are garbage; these people weren't there with John Kerry."

This can be proven or disproved by the vets military record. Where and when they served.
They wouldn't be taking this chance to do this if they weren't telling the truth. Especially the doctor who treated one of Kerry's purple heart boo boo's.

6 posted on 08/04/2004 11:54:42 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Steven W.

Ive heard of this before. Is there an official Senate transcript or record of him saying it? I tried looking all over the net for it before but couldnt find one. There must be something now.


9 posted on 08/05/2004 12:06:48 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Steven W.
Richard Nixon did not become president of the United States until twenty-six days after John Kerry’s Christmas in Cambodia.

That hit me like a meteor. The fact that Nixon was not inaugurated until January 1969 went right over my head. I'll have to start reading and listening more critically in the future.

10 posted on 08/05/2004 12:09:04 AM PDT by Free2Be49 (A wise man's heart inclines him toward the right, but a fool's heart toward the left. Ecc. 10:2 RSV)
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To: Steven W.
Maybe Kerry thought he was in Cambodia like he probably thought he was in Ohio the other day when he talked about his support for the Buckeyes, but was really in Michigan.

Kerry is an idiot traitorous liar who should be dealt with accordingly.
12 posted on 08/05/2004 12:10:01 AM PDT by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
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To: Steven W.

Maybe all the killing, maiming and torture that Kerry talks about actually took place in and amongst the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. Maybe he could work that into his story somehow. Or, he can just ask John Edwards to look into his crystal ball and come up with a new story.


13 posted on 08/05/2004 12:14:40 AM PDT by taxesareforever
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To: Steven W.
"...beyond even the slimiest of slime"

Not only describes John Kerry but also the gullible senators who were fed these lies and were only too happy to accept the Kerry babble for an unpopular war - regardless of the men still there. Some of those senators are still with us today – vote them out of office.

15 posted on 08/05/2004 12:19:02 AM PDT by yoe (Kerry is the band-aid candidate until Hillary steps forth in.................)
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To: Steven W.
Even without minimal investigation, a critical press should have been able to spot the story as a total fabrication: Richard Nixon did not become president of the United States until twenty-six days after John Kerry’s Christmas in Cambodia.

First thing I thought of. Imagine if Bush said something so transperently false about his service. The media would be talking about nothing else for weeks.

16 posted on 08/05/2004 12:25:15 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: Steven W.

Forgive my ignorance, but why in the hell haven't we gotten to get Kerry to release his records? Don't we have a right to see them if he is running for a public office, let alone the PRESIDENT of the US!!!! It just makes my blood boil for him to get away with all these f-in lies!!


19 posted on 08/05/2004 12:44:24 AM PDT by Ros42
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John Kerry: "I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real.

Nixon, president in 1968? I don't think so Mr. Kerry!!!

20 posted on 08/05/2004 1:00:49 AM PDT by Spotsy (The news media should report the news, not manufacture it)
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To: Steven W.

bump


21 posted on 08/05/2004 2:54:43 AM PDT by RippleFire ("It was just a scratch")
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To: Steven W.; snopercod; joanie-f
www.swiftvets.com makes this statement in their FAQ:

John Kerry has been able to convince about 13 men who served on Swift boats in the Mekong Delta to support him, 7 or 8 of whom were at various times crew members on his own 6-man boat.

That "wiggle room" between "7 or 8" does not bode well for swiftvets' arguments. It means that they do not know.

www.swiftvets.com makes this statement in the very first line at their website:

Senator John Kerry has made his 4-month combat tour in Vietnam the centerpiece of his bid for the Presidency.

That statement is also not accurate. Senator Kerry has not made his combat tour the centerpiece. His combat tour is a key ingredient, but it is not the centerpiece of John Kerry's campaign.

His campaign is philanthropic bigwig limousine-liberal largesse, a government of issue-reactionaries, that is, at the behest of the trial-lawyer directorate a.k.a. socialist government by judiciary.

He proposes collegial consensus, that is, success is measured by "the dialog" and how much of it there is, but not how productive nor actually decisive.

He proposes no direction other than the the secret 5-year plan that Democrats are loathe to talk about publicly, but toward which, the public is herded by selections taken in response to "the politics of the moment," from the liberals' socialist thesarus of adjectives:

what we are told by the Democrats, the public must fear.

The centerpiece of the Kerry/Edwards campaign for the Presidency, is to make enemies of the state:

people who think critically,

people who are self-determined,

people who dare to show initiative without union bosses' sanctions, and

people who live by standards of decency not set by the nationalizing socialist directorate a.k.a. Democrat Party.

Kerry's problem is not that he overstates his case.

Kerry's problem is that he is wreckless when he is scared; he finds security in the sound of gunfire; he thinks that the measure of a person's success, on up to the White House, is the appearance of success.

He grew up among financially-conservative liberals, and he noted the appearance of their sucesses, and he modeled himself after those appearances, and he has been adjusting the rudder ever since.

His failure is not that so much that he has puffed up his own sails.

His failure is that he has not much of a basis in living as a producer of either goods or services and hence, knowing the burdens and consequences of what life is like at the top of a 5-store hardware chain spanning two States, keeping 74 employees on the job, paying taxes and replying to the federal leviathan's regulations of, ever-more, everything.

The secret, unfortunately, for his success, is that there is no secret. Rather, there is the appearance of their being a secret.

He grew up surrounded by the appearances of accomplishment(s), and so he sought to reproduce the same, in order to be accomplished.

That, is his campaign.

He's not a bad guy; he's really, still, just the new guy, because he never stuck around where he would have to live with his decisions as a leader or as a follower.

If he had, he might know why we have a Constitution and are supposed to make laws by way of, and due process of, our legislative bodies --- because he would have some understanding of construction, as distinguished from concocting stories.

Management is not all pressing the flesh.

High-strength bolts from the foundary must meet technical requirements. Every day. Without interruption.

The federal government is now, almost all about, interruption of productivity and interruption of economic growth, and interruption to the point of utter dictation about how people are supposed to press the flesh in the workplace.

Where it is getting uncomfortable enough that more and more people spend more and more time on seeking consensus, because they are not getting along well, under the burdens imposed upon their productivity.

The once simple act of using a de-burring knife to clean up a metal part, is now a Supreme Court case, because lawyers are stripping the federal government of the boundaries imposed upon it, by our Constitution, and the same lawyers are building up boundaries around the people.

Which might sink in, if you put down the iPod and step away from your reality, and try moving forward, toward the preservation of liberty and its foundations.

That gave us originally, our Constitution that was written as a testament of man's diversity, before the modern pop-diversity was marketed to give the appearance of individuality for the socialist "like-minded."

As a young man, John Kerry observed what was marketed as being successful, among high-up liberals, and his life's work has been to convince them that he is like-minded.

For as much as some people are focused on his military record, that unknown quantity, what he will really do, is as unknown among his political party's followers.

President Bush learned a hard lesson when the (Iraq) prison scandel blew up in his face; he learned that he must also be the IGl; he learned that he needed to do more, to learn "what happened on the plant floor."

Well, Bush is a failure alright, but that is because his failures are not a secret.

That, is becoming the secret of his success.

22 posted on 08/05/2004 2:59:08 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Steven W.

What a fraud! John Kerry is a liar in the Bill Clinton league.


23 posted on 08/05/2004 3:03:12 AM PDT by dennisw (Once is Happenstance. Twice is Coincidence. The third time is Enemy action. - Ian Fleming)
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To: Steven W.

The "hero" of Vietnam,,,Ho Chi Minh said so!!


25 posted on 08/05/2004 3:21:08 AM PDT by Waco
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To: Steven W.; Ros42; river rat; concerned about politics

The stategy of Kerry will be to attempt to keep the focus on the Swift Vets and villify them in every way including even their personal lives. The New York Times, other media surrogates, and the usual DNC thugs will be the means by which this is implemented.

The focus must be kept on Kerry. HE is the one who needs to answer the manifestly critical questions that have now been raised about his veracity and, above all, his character and honor.

Kerry can easily answer the questions: it is only necessary is that he authorize the immediate release of ALL his military/military-medical records.

This was formally requested of Kerry in a carefully-worded May 2004 letter sent him by the Swift Vets (letter in full available at www.swiftvets.com).

This, again, is going to be a battle of focus.

To keep the focus on Kerry, it is vital that we and all other good people DEMAND UNCEASINGLY of the news mediums that they cut to the chase and, as is right and proper, request Kerry in every way - verbally and by written means - to release all his military/military-medical records.

God bless.


27 posted on 08/05/2004 4:11:36 AM PDT by mtntop3 ("He who must know before he believes will never come to full knowledge.")
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To: Steven W.

Bookmarking ...


28 posted on 08/05/2004 4:17:06 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: angkor; killjoy

ping

angkor, you would know better than I would, but didn't the Khmer Rouge first emerge with any notoreity in 1970? Kerry says he was fired upon by the Khmer Rouge in 1968, but my guess is that only people in the State Dept. and CIA even knew who the Khmer Rouge were in 1968. I may be wrong.


32 posted on 08/05/2004 4:23:59 AM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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