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To: cpforlife.org

he has alretady admitted this, guys. he believes that life begins at conception, but still advocates abortion. He has SAID it. he is trying to sell it as a church/state issue.


17 posted on 08/04/2004 10:55:35 PM PDT by smonk
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To: smonk; MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...
We know he said it.

But he also twisted it: John Kerry Sidesteps Abortion Comment, Says Unborn a "Form of Life" http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1184490/posts

The point here is to illustrate that even the demons at PP used to call an unborn baby an unborn baby and not a disposable blob of tissue-- and that in the past they admitted it's murder.

Abortion IS murder, but the majority opinion of Roe v Wade purposely ignored basic observable truths.

A human embryo or human fetus IS a very young human being.

person
n. 1) a human being. http://dictionary.law.com/definition2.asp?selected=1516&bold=person||human||

first degree murder http://dictionary.law.com/definition2.asp?selected=754&bold=%7C%7C%7C%7C
n. although it varies from state to state, it is generally a killing which is deliberate and premeditated (planned, after lying in wait, by poison or as part of a scheme), in conjunction with felonies such as rape, burglary, arson, or involving multiple deaths, the killing of certain types of people (such as a child, a police officer, a prison guard, a fellow prisoner), or certain weapons, particularly a gun. The specific criteria for first degree murder, are established by statute in each state and by the U.S. Code in federal prosecutions. It is distinguished from second degree murder in which premeditation is usually absent, and from manslaughter, which lacks premeditation and suggests that at most there was intent to harm rather than to kill.

malice aforethought http://dictionary.law.com/definition2.asp?selected=1198&bold=||||
n. 1) the conscious intent to cause death or great bodily harm to another person before a person commits the crime. Such malice is a required element to prove first degree murder. 2) a general evil and depraved state of mind in which the person is unconcerned for the lives of others. Thus, if a person uses a gun to hold up a bank and an innocent bystander is killed in a shoot-out with police, there is malice aforethought.


Here is where US law is based on nothing but lies. See bold and red:

murder http://dictionary.law.com/definition2.asp?selected=1303&bold=||||
n. the killing of a human being by a sane person, with intent, malice aforethought (prior intention to kill the particular victim or anyone who gets in the way) and with no legal excuse or authority. In those clear circumstances, this is first degree murder. Death of an unborn child who is "quick" (fetus is moving) can be murder, provided there was premeditation, malice and no legal authority. Thus, abortion is not murder under the law.

Abortion clearly involves premeditation and malice. Finally, and most important, NO person or group can ever licitly grant real legal authority to kill a helpless and innocent person--born or preborn.

IMO--this is what Robert H. Bork meant when making the following comments about Roe v. Wade in Constitutional Persons: An Exchange on Abortion:

"Blackmun invented a right to abortion....Roe had nothing whatever to do with constitutional interpretation. The utter emptiness of the opinion has been demonstrated time and again, but that, too, is irrelevant. The decision and its later reaffirmations simply enforce the cultural prejudices of a particular class in American society, nothing more and nothing less. For that reason, Roe is impervious to logical or historical argument; it is what some people, including a majority of the Justices, want, and that is that."

Also see: John Kerry Thinking on Abortion Same as Supreme Court on Allowing Slavery http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1183898/posts

19 posted on 08/04/2004 11:21:57 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (am I) A part of the cure, or am I part of the disease, singing…You are, you are)
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