[LandOfLincolnGOP]

But remember that Lincoln himself, interestingly enough, lost some a few elections (including congressional elections) before making something of himself.

Lincoln lost one election. And in fact, he won the popular vote in that election, but the state legislature chose Douglas. Keyes has lost four elections, and the most he's ever gotten is 39%.

[HallowThisGround]

But remember that Lincoln himself, interestingly enough, lost some a few elections (including congressional elections) before making something of himself.
Lincoln lost one election. And in fact, he won the popular vote in that election, but the state legislature chose Douglas. Keyes has lost four elections, and the most he's ever gotten is 39%.

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Get your history correct. Lincoln lost about 6 elections. Only won a couple State Rep races, once for congress and lost consistently before becoming President. He was considered a losing candidate.

Having lost means nothing. Having a message that matters is EVERYTHING.

[tame]

Lincoln lost one election. And in fact, he won the popular vote in that election, but the state legislature chose Douglas. Keyes has lost four elections, and the most he's ever gotten is 39%.

I do believe your history of Lincoln is off a bit. How ironic considering your screen name. See post #269.

[AuH2ORepublican]

"Lincoln lost one election. And in fact, he won the popular vote in that election, but the state legislature chose Douglas."

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Could you please explain how Lincoln "won the popular vote" for the Senate a full 56 years before the first time the people ever voted in a U.S. Senate election?

Before the 17th Amendment was ratified in 1913, Senators were elected by the state legislatures. The Lincoln-Douglas debates and their "Senate race" were merely part of the Illinois state legislative elections of 1858, since the Republican candidates would vote for Lincoln if elected to the Legislature while the Democrat candidates would vote for Douglas. The people of Illinois elected Democrat majorities to both houses of the Illinois Legislature, and the Legislature elected Douglas to the U.S. Senate.

[olde north church]

as i recall,honest abe was born in kentucky, wasn't he

[Rate_Determining_Step]

> Keyes has lost four elections, and the most he's ever gotten is 39%.

This is MD you're talking about? Not familiar with NE politics, but aren't they one of the most liberal states in the nation?

[goldstategop]

A decent showing in liberal Maryland. Its about fighting for our ideas and in the long run they matter more than if we keep a particular seat. I don't think we just want to hold power for its own sake as the Left does.