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Internet "Whispering Campaigns" Falsely Accuse Teresa Heinz Kerry
Factcheck.org ^ | 8/4/04 | FactCheck.org

Posted on 08/04/2004 11:47:13 AM PDT by hscott

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I apologize if this is a repost.

It seems to me that factcheck is saying that although funds were transferred to Tides from Teresa-controlled entities to Tides, that each dollar can be tagged and Teresa's money only went to "OK" causes. I find it dubious that the money can be tagged this accurately but suppose it is true.

Nevertheless, Teresa gave money to Tides and Tides funded leftie whack jobs. So Teresa is only one step removed from funding the whackos herself. Moreover if teresa gives money to Tides to fund some goodygoody cause that frees up Tides money to give to the loons.

I also object to the "guilt by association" tactics of the references to Scaife. Essentially they are saying that any allegations by Scaife-funded sources can be ignored. That is ad homimem argument and bad logic.

I'll leave it to someone else to deconstruct the ideas that Teresa is not really associated with Heinz now.

1 posted on 08/04/2004 11:47:22 AM PDT by hscott
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To: hscott

I would have bet anything this thread was about her often drunken appearance.


2 posted on 08/04/2004 11:49:50 AM PDT by Petronski (It's a man's life in the Cardiff Rooms, Libya)
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To: hscott

They use some good misdirection techniques by clintonian "parsing" of language.


3 posted on 08/04/2004 11:51:24 AM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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Wait a minute! There was a whispering campaign to discredit Teresa Hienz Kerry, AND NOBODY INVITED ME?!?
4 posted on 08/04/2004 11:52:28 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (We live in a wonderful country where any child can grow up to be the next Ronald Reagan.)
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To: hscott

Snopes has gone out of its way to debunk the truth about the Left.

Has anyone checked out Factcjeck's ideology?


5 posted on 08/04/2004 11:53:01 AM PDT by Old Sarge
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Either way, this Lady is a Total Wack Job!


6 posted on 08/04/2004 11:53:29 AM PDT by PFMRightNow (Please provide help with DEMs and Social Security!)
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To: hscott

Release the tax returns. We'll decide.


7 posted on 08/04/2004 11:55:16 AM PDT by snooker
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Just looks like somebody is trying to run damage control to me. I wouldn't trust anything that comes out of the Kerry campaign.


8 posted on 08/04/2004 11:56:02 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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If she would just release her tax records, all of this would be settled once and for all.

Since she hasn't/won't, it is fair game to question her motives.


9 posted on 08/04/2004 11:56:08 AM PDT by Carling
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To: hscott

Money is fungible.

Charity Z has 1 million dollars in projects it wishes to fund.

Charity Z raises $500,000 so far, but keeps pounding the pavement for more money.

Mrs. Ketchup then gives $500,000 to Charity Z to fund only specific non-radical projects.

Thanks to Mrs. Ketchup, who kows about these radical projects, Charity Z now has fully funded its other radical projects!


12 posted on 08/04/2004 11:57:25 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (Fides et Ratio)
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this Lady is a Total Wack Job!

SSSSSHHHHHH !
You're supposed to whisper it!

That's what this campaign is all about!

13 posted on 08/04/2004 11:58:05 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: snooker

Its really that simple.


14 posted on 08/04/2004 11:58:51 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (Fides et Ratio)
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I'm w/ you how can FACTCHECK know if she did or didn't if they haven't seen TereZa's tax returns.
15 posted on 08/04/2004 11:59:09 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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It is my understanding that the Tides Foundation and the associated Tides Center were set up for the express purpose of serving as an untraceable cut-out between donors who wish to remain anonymous and causes they wish to clandestinely support.

If this is the case, then the fact that no evidence exists to show that THK's money went to any radical cause means that the mechanism is working precisely as designed.
16 posted on 08/04/2004 12:00:18 PM PDT by bondjamesbond (We live in a wonderful country where any child can grow up to be the next Ronald Reagan.)
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What she does with her foundation money is not going to necessarily discredit her - many foundations support causes that are reviled by conservatives. The damage to Gigolo John's campaign will be from her personality and her big mouth, which is there for all to see. Nobody likes a snooty rich B***H, and especially working-class Democrats.


17 posted on 08/04/2004 12:00:58 PM PDT by KAUAIBOUND (Hawaii - a Socialist paradise for left-wing cockroaches)
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To: Petronski

It may not be alcohol, but psychotrophic meds..


18 posted on 08/04/2004 12:02:35 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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"Heinz Kerry's foundation money was directed to projects such as "Sustainable Pittsburgh," which promotes "smart growth" strategies."

This is enough to d#mn her my eyes. This is Agenda21 from those misbegotten spawn in the UN.

I'm a conservationist, but what she and her Foundation back are looney redistributionist schemes. She and others of her ilk are not likely to use the "Sustainable" manner of life they wish to inflict on Joe Sixpack given her and the combined Kerry/Ter-A-ZA profligate use of land, energy, and materials.

I don't mind planning or measures to insure good use of resources. What I dispise is hypocrisy. Ter-A-ZA and the other billionaires supporting the Democrats are convinced that only they know what's good for the little people, and only they will have what the little people do not.

Oligarchs all.


19 posted on 08/04/2004 12:03:05 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Listen here President Bush..You'd better win and win big because if you don't we're toast.)
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To: Old Sarge
Has anyone checked out Factcjeck's ideology?

Much like Spinsanity they seem to be fair and without bias.

On their web site they have articles ripping the Kerry campaign for dubious claims about salary rates of new jobs & comments on off-shoring. They also have an article defending Bush over the Niger-Yellowcake comments.

To be fair, it wouldn't surprise me to see made-up "facts" being sent around in an e-mail, it happens all the time on both sides.

That being said, if even one of these e-mails causes someone to vote for Bush, it is worth it

20 posted on 08/04/2004 12:03:55 PM PDT by mastequilla
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