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CA: GOP group plans bill to bar aid for illegal immigrants (California Republican Assembly)
Sna Diego Union-Tribune ^ | 8/4/04 | Michael Gardner - Copley News Service

Posted on 08/04/2004 9:15:47 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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California Republican Assembly, a conservative grass-roots faction of the GOP...

sic 'em

1 posted on 08/04/2004 9:15:52 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; FITZ; Spiff; ...

ping


2 posted on 08/04/2004 9:18:04 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: NormsRevenge

Excellent!


3 posted on 08/04/2004 9:19:08 AM PDT by Mini-14
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To: Carry_Okie; Reagan Man; Amerigomag

BUMP


4 posted on 08/04/2004 9:21:05 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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here is an easy solution to end the border crossings, put the military (maybe 1000 troops) along the border with signs in English and Spanish, "VIOLATORS WILL BE SHOT ON SITE"


5 posted on 08/04/2004 9:21:17 AM PDT by erik22lax
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To: NormsRevenge
The initiative is a narrowed version of the polarizing Proposition 187 approved by voters in 1994.

There was nothing polarizing about Proposition 187, it passed by a wide margin.

6 posted on 08/04/2004 9:22:22 AM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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To: NormsRevenge

Just checked the CRA web site and apparently they don't have the petition up for downloadint yet.


7 posted on 08/04/2004 9:26:20 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: NormsRevenge
Appropriate name for Proposition 187. 187 is the police code for homicide.

Maybe CA is finally waking up and smelling the coffee. The state is on a fiscal train wreck, the roads are crumbling, and the enviro-wackos are prevent new energy startups. Businesses are leaving in droves.

8 posted on 08/04/2004 9:26:47 AM PDT by No-Compromise Conservative
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"Immigrants are not here for services. They're here to work," he said.

Fine. Then illegal aliens don't need access to: retirement, welfare, unemployment or disability checks, housing subsidies, food stamps, or cheaper in-state college tuition, loans and scholarships.

"In November 1994, 59 percent of California voters approved the measure to deny public education, social services and nonemergency health care to illegal immigrants."

9 posted on 08/04/2004 9:29:06 AM PDT by FoxInSocks
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Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who persuaded the Legislature to repeal such a law, is negotiating a compromise measure with Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, but no deal has been struck.

Moderate Republicans have worked to mend seriously damaged relations with Latino voters, many of whom viewed Proposition 187 as a direct attack.

California's problem isn't the Democrats, it's the spineless RINOs who refuse to stand up for conservative principles.

The CA GOP is a complete joke.

10 posted on 08/04/2004 9:31:15 AM PDT by ServesURight
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Attatch a rider to the foriegn aid spending bill in congress that any moneys incured from states by illegals must be paid back to those states out of the money that would go to those countries.


11 posted on 08/04/2004 9:34:37 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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2006? God, how many more illegls? If Mexicans knew they have no freebies, they wouldn't come here.That is common sense, right?. There are plenty Americans who could fill every job here if they would. Everything is too screwed up here to expect that.


12 posted on 08/04/2004 9:41:25 AM PDT by Old anti feminist
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To: NormsRevenge

I'm all for it!


13 posted on 08/04/2004 9:54:34 AM PDT by GVnana (Tagline? I don't need no steenkin' tagline!)
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Wheres the petition ?, I'll sign it right now and so will about 3,000,000 other Ca. citizens.


14 posted on 08/04/2004 9:56:54 AM PDT by Uncle George
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California and America's problem isn't the Democrats, it's the spineless RINOs who refuse to stand up for conservative principles.

When and if ever the problem is corrected we might just get more people to vote again.

15 posted on 08/04/2004 10:07:08 AM PDT by B4Ranch (----http://www.firearmsid.com/----"Wise men learn more from fools than fools learn from the wise.")
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To: NormsRevenge

The Save Our License Committee joined with Assemblyman Mark Wyland today in announcing a new initiative designed to prevent California State and local governments from granting benefits to illegal aliens.

“When the legislature gives benefits like driver’s licenses and in-state tuition breaks to illegal aliens it is sending the signal that illegal immigration is okay,” said Mike Spence, with the Save Our License Committee. “Well it is not okay, and the vast majority of Californians believe it is not okay.”

“The Save Our License Initiative contains three main provisions,” he added. “First, the government will not provide any benefits not mandated by federal law. Second, the government will defend this law against any and all legal challenges. Third, individual citizens will be granted the power to sue to compel compliance with the law.”

“This initiative is about empowering Californians to stand up and do what the legislature will not do,” added Assemblyman Mark Wyland. “We should not be granting special tax-funded benefits to illegal aliens, period. And in this time of huge budget deficits, there is even more reason to stop the giveaway of our tax dollars.”

“One of the driving issues in the recall of Gray Davis last year was SB 60, the law giving driver’s licenses to illegal aliens,” said Victor Valenzuela, a member of the Save Our License committee. “Now the legislature is trying to pass another version of this. It’s time to give the power to the people to once again say ‘no more.’”

The Save Our License initiative specifically prohibits the government from giving California driver’s licenses, government identification cards and in-state college tuition to illegal aliens. In addition, it spells out a list of benefits for which the government would be prohibited from providing to illegals.

“The people of California have spoken out strongly on this issue, only to be thwarted by the State in not defending Prop. 187, and by the legislature continuing to award benefits to illegals,” added Sen. Dick Mountjoy, one of the authors of Proposition 187.

“This measure will force the government to defend it in court through all appeals,” he added. “Most experts agree that the bulk of Proposition 187 would have been upheld had the state continued to appeal the case, and we’ve addressed that in this initiative.”

More importantly, the new initiative will give power to individual citizens to force the government to comply with the law.

“Under this initiative, any citizen in California will have the right to sue their state or local government to ensure compliance with the law,” added Spence. “That means if a city, like San Francisco, decides to ignore the law, an individual could bring suit to compel the city to follow the law.”

In addition, any government official that is willfully disobeying the law could be held personally liable for their actions.

“We are very confident of our success with this initiative,” noted Spence. “We start with a strong and enthusiastic base of supporters. We have financial commitments to help with the paid signature gatherers. And the legislature is keeping the issue in front of everyone with their efforts to pass a new driver’s license bill.”

The Save Our License initiative, which was filed with the Attorney General today, will amend California’s Constitution. For it to qualify for the ballot, proponents must collect approximately 600,000 valid signatures.

Under California law, the Attorney General has fifteen days to review the language and prepare an official Title and Summary. If the Attorney General determines that the initiative may have a fiscal impact, he must forward it for a fiscal review before issuing the Title and Summary.

Once complete, the Attorney General will transmit it the Secretary of State who will record is and start the clock on the signature gathering. Proponents will then have 150 days to gather the necessary signatures.

You can sign up for e-mail updates and notice of when the petitions are available @ The Save Our License Committee joined with Assemblyman Mark Wyland today in announcing a new initiative designed to prevent California State and local governments from granting benefits to illegal aliens.

“When the legislature gives benefits like driver’s licenses and in-state tuition breaks to illegal aliens it is sending the signal that illegal immigration is okay,” said Mike Spence, with the Save Our License Committee. “Well it is not okay, and the vast majority of Californians believe it is not okay.”

“The Save Our License Initiative contains three main provisions,” he added. “First, the government will not provide any benefits not mandated by federal law. Second, the government will defend this law against any and all legal challenges. Third, individual citizens will be granted the power to sue to compel compliance with the law.”

“This initiative is about empowering Californians to stand up and do what the legislature will not do,” added Assemblyman Mark Wyland. “We should not be granting special tax-funded benefits to illegal aliens, period. And in this time of huge budget deficits, there is even more reason to stop the giveaway of our tax dollars.”

“One of the driving issues in the recall of Gray Davis last year was SB 60, the law giving driver’s licenses to illegal aliens,” said Victor Valenzuela, a member of the Save Our License committee. “Now the legislature is trying to pass another version of this. It’s time to give the power to the people to once again say ‘no more.’”

The Save Our License initiative specifically prohibits the government from giving California driver’s licenses, government identification cards and in-state college tuition to illegal aliens. In addition, it spells out a list of benefits for which the government would be prohibited from providing to illegals.

“The people of California have spoken out strongly on this issue, only to be thwarted by the State in not defending Prop. 187, and by the legislature continuing to award benefits to illegals,” added Sen. Dick Mountjoy, one of the authors of Proposition 187.

“This measure will force the government to defend it in court through all appeals,” he added. “Most experts agree that the bulk of Proposition 187 would have been upheld had the state continued to appeal the case, and we’ve addressed that in this initiative.”

More importantly, the new initiative will give power to individual citizens to force the government to comply with the law.

“Under this initiative, any citizen in California will have the right to sue their state or local government to ensure compliance with the law,” added Spence. “That means if a city, like San Francisco, decides to ignore the law, an individual could bring suit to compel the city to follow the law.”

In addition, any government official that is willfully disobeying the law could be held personally liable for their actions.

“We are very confident of our success with this initiative,” noted Spence. “We start with a strong and enthusiastic base of supporters. We have financial commitments to help with the paid signature gatherers. And the legislature is keeping the issue in front of everyone with their efforts to pass a new driver’s license bill.”

The Save Our License initiative, which was filed with the Attorney General today, will amend California’s Constitution. For it to qualify for the ballot, proponents must collect approximately 600,000 valid signatures.

Under California law, the Attorney General has fifteen days to review the language and prepare an official Title and Summary. If the Attorney General determines that the initiative may have a fiscal impact, he must forward it for a fiscal review before issuing the Title and Summary.

Once complete, the Attorney General will transmit it the Secretary of State who will record is and start the clock on the signature gathering. Proponents will then have 150 days to gather the necessary signatures.

You can sign up for e-mail updates and notification of when the petitions will be available @ The Save Our License Committee joined with Assemblyman Mark Wyland today in announcing a new initiative designed to prevent California State and local governments from granting benefits to illegal aliens.

“When the legislature gives benefits like driver’s licenses and in-state tuition breaks to illegal aliens it is sending the signal that illegal immigration is okay,” said Mike Spence, with the Save Our License Committee. “Well it is not okay, and the vast majority of Californians believe it is not okay.”

“The Save Our License Initiative contains three main provisions,” he added. “First, the government will not provide any benefits not mandated by federal law. Second, the government will defend this law against any and all legal challenges. Third, individual citizens will be granted the power to sue to compel compliance with the law.”

“This initiative is about empowering Californians to stand up and do what the legislature will not do,” added Assemblyman Mark Wyland. “We should not be granting special tax-funded benefits to illegal aliens, period. And in this time of huge budget deficits, there is even more reason to stop the giveaway of our tax dollars.”

“One of the driving issues in the recall of Gray Davis last year was SB 60, the law giving driver’s licenses to illegal aliens,” said Victor Valenzuela, a member of the Save Our License committee. “Now the legislature is trying to pass another version of this. It’s time to give the power to the people to once again say ‘no more.’”

The Save Our License initiative specifically prohibits the government from giving California driver’s licenses, government identification cards and in-state college tuition to illegal aliens. In addition, it spells out a list of benefits for which the government would be prohibited from providing to illegals.

“The people of California have spoken out strongly on this issue, only to be thwarted by the State in not defending Prop. 187, and by the legislature continuing to award benefits to illegals,” added Sen. Dick Mountjoy, one of the authors of Proposition 187.

“This measure will force the government to defend it in court through all appeals,” he added. “Most experts agree that the bulk of Proposition 187 would have been upheld had the state continued to appeal the case, and we’ve addressed that in this initiative.”

More importantly, the new initiative will give power to individual citizens to force the government to comply with the law.

“Under this initiative, any citizen in California will have the right to sue their state or local government to ensure compliance with the law,” added Spence. “That means if a city, like San Francisco, decides to ignore the law, an individual could bring suit to compel the city to follow the law.”

In addition, any government official that is willfully disobeying the law could be held personally liable for their actions.

“We are very confident of our success with this initiative,” noted Spence. “We start with a strong and enthusiastic base of supporters. We have financial commitments to help with the paid signature gatherers. And the legislature is keeping the issue in front of everyone with their efforts to pass a new driver’s license bill.”

The Save Our License initiative, which was filed with the Attorney General today, will amend California’s Constitution. For it to qualify for the ballot, proponents must collect approximately 600,000 valid signatures.

Under California law, the Attorney General has fifteen days to review the language and prepare an official Title and Summary. If the Attorney General determines that the initiative may have a fiscal impact, he must forward it for a fiscal review before issuing the Title and Summary.

Once complete, the Attorney General will transmit it the Secretary of State who will record is and start the clock on the signature gathering. Proponents will then have 150 days to gather the necessary signatures.


16 posted on 08/04/2004 10:13:14 AM PDT by dalereed
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Sign up for e-mail updates and notification when the petitions will be available at http://www.saveourlicense.com/


17 posted on 08/04/2004 10:15:54 AM PDT by dalereed
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Sorry about the repeat on the above!


18 posted on 08/04/2004 10:18:32 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: NormsRevenge
The courts and mediation later invalidated much of Proposition 187, allowing children of illegal immigrants to attend school and receive medical care.

Prop 187 never prevented citizen children of illegal aliens from attending school or receiving taxpayer-paid medical care. It was intended to restrict free public schooling, medical care, and other public benefits to citizens and legal aliens only; it was supposed to reduce the incentives for foreigners to stay here illegally.

Children of illegal aliens are not always illegal aliens themselves. The longer we wait, the more "anchor babies" there will be. Nonresidents (like illegal aliens) can also attend our public schools by paying tuition, but most do not, and schools usually fail to collect these education fees.

19 posted on 08/04/2004 10:44:00 AM PDT by heleny
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I hope this initiative constitutional amendment petition is successful. The last "save our state" or so-called "son of 187" initiative petition earlier this year failed for lack of signatures.


20 posted on 08/04/2004 10:48:27 AM PDT by heleny
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