Posted on 08/03/2004 1:35:58 PM PDT by lizol
Oh! Mr Pavelka, - I do apologize for you and your compatriots being expelled after having slaughtered 6 millions of Polish people (including 3 millions of Polish Jews),
- I do also apologize for an agreement set by Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin considering the problem of expulsions. The Poles had no influence on that, but I do apologize anyway,
- I do also apologize for Polish continous recalling of what you did in my coutry during WW2. I fully understand, that it's so untactful in today's Europe and I do promise I'll get better about it.
"We want to set an example, to show that a state which breaches international law cannot pretend nothing happened," he said".
Oh! M. Pavelka! Reffering to your words I understand of course, that we, the evil Poles came to Silesia nad Pommerania in 1945 and expelled the poor, peace loving Germans (who had never breached international law, especially during previous 6 years in Poland and all over Europe) - without any reason, just for fun.
And - at the end - one more thing Mr. Pavelka, I've almost forgotten. F***k you very much!
Ping!
That is the funniest damn *real* headline I have ever seen.
Talk about chutzpah! Next they'll want the Jews to pay for the gas!
I would have to add (Poland tells Germany to go Kerry itself.)
Like you took it from my mind. I just wanted to write something about paying for bullets used during Warsaw uprising.
And then Belarus and Ukraine will consider Polish claims? Poland came out behind on hectares before and after the war.
I don't think so.
And I haven't heard of any German claims to Russia in spite of the fact, that Kaliningrad (formerly Konigsberg) used to be German too.
Why not?
Most of the world seems to think Palestinians who fled and/or were expelled only a few years after this have a "right to return."
On what logical basis do Palestinians have this right, yet Germans (who did not themselves commit war crimes) do not?
And while I don't agree with what's going on at ALL I can't let this pass.
What about all the Germans that were helping people all over that lost everything? My Grandfather was executed for it in 45 and through "politics" the family lost everything. My mom grew up as an orphan since they were expelled and her mother couldn't aford the medicine she needed to survive.
Yeah, they deserved so since they were German right?
SO F**K YOU!!!
Ping
Maybe word "reperations" could be considered as "logical basis".
"SO F**K YOU!!!"
Did You relate it to me? If so, I think our further conversation is over.
I didn't know we had any...
Was just giving my opinion on your post. That's all....
We could've started one.
But we won't.
Gruss Gott.
Do zobaczenia
Raczej dobranoc (z mojej perspektywy).
You just knew one day this would come back
First this has nothing to do with the Poles… it has to do with Stalin and the Russians
In 39 when Germany invaded Poland from the west people sometimes forget that the Russian invaded Poland from the east…. Hitler and Stalin had a pre war pact to split Poland up 50/50…. This in not new as throughout Poland history Germany & Russia had “absorbent” the respective East and West half of Poland several times
At the end of WW2 Stalin and the Russians decided to again keep “there half” of Polish land and make it permanent part of Russians(now part of Ukraine)… but to “make up” to Poland a part of historically German land was permanent made part of Poland by the Russians
The Russian in effect.. “moved” Poland west … Russia gained new territory area… Germany lost historical territory area…. And Poland stayed roughly the same in total area but moved west
The Russians also decided to keep a good part of Prussia, also historically German land, as part of Russia proper
I thought ethnic cleansing was always wrong.
If it was right and proper when committed against Germans, then it is not always wrong and we must argue each case individually to see whether it is proper in that particular context.
I find it absolutely fascinating that Americans are supposed to feel great guilt over ethnic cleansing committed 100+ years ago against Mexicans and Native Americans, yet Europeans are perfectly happy with that committed less than half that long ago against Germans.
Although, to be perfectly frank, the Germans probably asked for it more than just about any other group in history.
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