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To: Perlstein
I think Iraq is a tragic disaster (though for the time being the country is probably better off than it was when Saddam was around--but only, I fear, for the time being).

Rick, the fact of the matter is Iraq is a breathtaking and brilliant success that will be studied for years and hailed well into the future. You need more information from better sourcing in order to make informed opinions.

206 posted on 08/03/2004 1:02:58 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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"Rick, the fact of the matter is Iraq is a breathtaking and brilliant success that will be studied for years and hailed well into the future. You need more information from better sourcing in order to make informed opinions."

Dittos on that.

Question for Perlstein: How many years of non-genocide, non-dictatorship, freedom, free enterprise and democracy will Iraq live through before you admit you were wrong?



225 posted on 08/03/2004 1:08:02 PM PDT by WOSG (George W Bush - Right for our Times!)
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To: cyncooper; Perlstein

"Rick, the fact of the matter is Iraq is a breathtaking and brilliant success that will be studied for years and hailed well into the future. You need more information from better sourcing in order to make informed opinions."

Dittos on that.

Question for Perlstein: How many years of non-genocide, non-dictatorship, freedom, free enterprise and democracy will Iraq live through before you admit you were wrong?



227 posted on 08/03/2004 1:08:06 PM PDT by WOSG (George W Bush - Right for our Times!)
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To: cyncooper; Perlstein

Mr Perlstein -these are statements of Iraqis - do you agree or disagree with them?

"The American soldier is trying to protect me from the terrorists and the American president saved me from Saddam's regime. If this is an occupation then I show my deepest respect to it and if such suicide attacks are called resistance then let the resistance go to hell." - Hoshyar Zakhoi-Duhok/Iraq

“Those groups made the police their primary target and any sane human being knows who are the enemies of the police; they’re the gangsters of course but when shall the cheering and clapping for those gangsters end and until when shall these crimes continue using the lousy excuse of resistance.

The media don’t show the slightest care about hundreds, no, thousands of innocent lives. All the media care about is to spread lies as solid facts. For example some media sources reported that jet fighters flew over Ramadi (where I live) and broke the sound barrier, which didn’t happen. Another example: they reported that the American army bombed a house, while the fact was that some mortar shells fired by the so-called resistance men hit the house and this was not the first time; tens of mortar shells fell on residential areas in my town. What can I say, I’m talking to the deaf”
Mohammed Al-Taa’i - Ramadi/Iraq.


“I closely follow the news about suicide attacks and the operations that target Americans and Iraqis because I was about to become part of this game.
The suicide attacks are performed by Arab fighters who’s first goal is heaven while the brains who plan for these operations have deep strategic goals but they will fail because Iraqis have recognized and hated this game. As for small bombs and IEDs; these are planted by a mixture of ex-criminals (hired right now) and intelligence elements from some countries and also those who were privileged before the change in Iraq”
Shahin Abdul Sattar-Baghdad.

“It’s time for you Iraqis to rise and unite your efforts against terror and terror-supporting countries. We will continue to water the tree of freedom with our blood and woe to the enemies of the people whether Arab or not. Woe to the hypocritical media. We will all build the new Iraq, the Iraq of hope and freedom and let the enemies of freedom go to hell.
Here I ask those who call such crimes resistance? What about our children and the poor workers and salesmen? Are they agents too?
Thanks to the Arabs who care about us and share our concerns and I say to the Arabs who consider us their enemies: we’re moving forward on the road of freedom and you can keep your course if you like but we will never waste the time or the chance to build the Iraq of peace and freedom”
Sherif-Kerkuk/Iraq.

“The filthy suicide attack killed 68 honest hardworking Iraqis among whom there were husbands, fathers. This attack and others similar to it are the last breath of these coward groups that hold Jihad as a slogan and use Islam as a cover.
The corrupt media that is bribed by the neighboring countries is morally responsible for these tragedies because they try to give legitimacy to these coward attacks by using the term “resistance”. The government is strong and its steps are supported by all the honest. Time will be on our side”
Mohammed Abdul jabbar-Baghdad.

“This is the “resistance” killing innocent people and threatening peace in Iraq. Is this Jihad? They kill innocents and they justify their doings by saying that Iraqis cooperate with the occupation while the truth is that these poor victims were people who loved and served their country by joining the IP to bring stability and peace to Iraq where coward terrorists established their stronghold. If those terrorists were the least brave they would’ve shown their faces when they appear in front of the cameras of the anti-Iraqi, poison-spreading satellite channels”
Um Noor-Iraq.

"Regardless of what some may say, something new is sprouting here, a democracy, young, but real, and in need of help. Regardless of what many Europeans may think or argue, as an Iraqi I believe that we shall always be grateful to the US for our liberation." -Monsignor Al Ras,
Iraq

I think that Bush and Blair are the heroes of democracy, humanity and the war on terror and state terror...." -Zana sefeen-Iraq.

"Who said there are no WMDs in Iraq? The most dangerous WMD exists and the American troops captured it. It’s the weapon that exterminated five million Iraqis and hundreds of thousands from our neighbors impoverished, detained and tortured. Saddam Hussain is the WMD in Iraq. Isn’t a weapon with such capabilities worth to go for a war to (disarm it)? Saving twenty million people from that weapon, isn’t that worth the effort?" Hasan Al-Shammari-Baghdad.

"America and the UK have offered the human race the greatest favor ever by toppling the ghoul of Iraq. All the debates and the investigations in these two countries are motivated by political ambitions and jealousy rather than the protection of the country and constitution. Bush and Blair deserve a Noble Prize for peace" Abdulrahman Al-Alwani-Syria.


Source for quotes -
http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/


254 posted on 08/03/2004 1:15:49 PM PDT by WOSG (George W Bush - Right for our Times!)
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To: cyncooper

"Rick, the fact of the matter is Iraq is a breathtaking and brilliant success that will be studied for years and hailed well into the future. You need more information from better sourcing in order to make informed opinions."

I'm not Rick, but are you lending out your crystal ball? Seriously, exactlty how do you know this for a fact? What are your sources for this amazing prediction of the future?

Mind you, I'm not saying you're wrong, but dang I wish I could time travel, too.


275 posted on 08/03/2004 1:21:57 PM PDT by Gone GF
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