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To: razoroccam
This "either or" logic doesn't hold water

The Creation story tells us that on one day God created plants, and the next day he set the sun in the sky to provide light. I'm sure you'll tell us how plants requiring photosynthesis to live can last for eons in pitch darkness.. They don't. Even the hardiest plants begin to wilt in a matter of days - not months or years - let alone eons.

Evolution creates more problems than it solves and it blasphemes God in the doing. Relegating the rise of mankind to an accident in nature instead of making it a direct and willful act of God. Theorizing attempts to gloss this over and make it seem acceptable amongst liberals who have more ability to be duped by philosophy than they have faith in God. That speaks ill of those people, not the evolutionists. Evolution has come along like the snake in the garden and has said 'God didn't really say that. He knows that if you do x you'll be as a god yourself...' It makes God's word a lie on it's face and those pretending at Christianity in some part haven't the sense to recognize blasphemy as the same groups largely have surrendered faith in God to philosophy and reason to begin with.

40 posted on 08/02/2004 5:30:12 PM PDT by Havoc (.)
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To: Havoc
Evolution creates more problems than it solves and it blasphemes God in the doing.

Evolution makes no reference to God at all. And indeed the evidence shows the first few chapters of Genesis got it wring. Relegating the rise of mankind to an accident in nature instead of making it a direct and willful act of God.

Not accident, natural selection.

Theorizing attempts to gloss this over and make it seem acceptable amongst liberals who have more ability to be duped by philosophy than they have faith in God.

Straw Man. There are conservatives that accept the evidence for the scientific theory of evolution.

Evolution has come along like the snake in the garden and has said 'God didn't really say that. He knows that if you do x you'll be as a god yourself...' It makes God's word a lie on it's face and those pretending at Christianity in some part haven't the sense to recognize blasphemy as the same groups largely have surrendered faith in God to philosophy and reason to begin with.

Again evolution could care less what you believe.

56 posted on 08/02/2004 7:00:27 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Havoc

I disagree with you on two points.

Evolution does not blaspheme God. It challenges the Bible and Koran, but does NOT challenge God. I don't accept the Koranic and Biblical version of creation - so I don't have to tell you how plants requiring photosynthesis can survive for eons without the sun. You are mixing your hypothesis - you are the one who believes that plants predated the Sun. I don't.

God is too magnificient to be tied down to one religion's view point.


91 posted on 08/03/2004 5:33:22 AM PDT by razoroccam (read Germs of War to know the real Armageddon)
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To: Havoc
Evolution creates more problems than it solves and it blasphemes God in the doing.

Why is it that whenever reality is observed in a way that contradicts the beliefs of some religious people, those religious people accuse the observers of "blaspheming God"?

Honestly, are you so arrogant as to believe that it's really all about you?

Relegating the rise of mankind to an accident in nature instead of making it a direct and willful act of God.

Argument from the consequences. Logical fallacy.

Theorizing attempts to gloss this over and make it seem acceptable amongst liberals who have more ability to be duped by philosophy than they have faith in God.

Argument from the consequences. Logical fallacy.

Evolution has come along like the snake in the garden and has said 'God didn't really say that. He knows that if you do x you'll be as a god yourself...'

Evolution is an attempt to explain a small subset of the natural universe. It's not the fault of reality that it doesn't conform to what you want to believe.

It makes God's word a lie on it's face and those pretending at Christianity in some part haven't the sense to recognize blasphemy as the same groups largely have surrendered faith in God to philosophy and reason to begin with.

Science isn't about your God. Evolution isn't about trying to disprove your religious beliefs, it's just a means for finding the best explanation for observed evidence. If you think that you can falsify what has been theorized, then do so, but whining about how you don't like it simply because it contradicts what you want to believe only makes you look like a crybaby.
211 posted on 08/03/2004 12:47:25 PM PDT by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://www.aa419.org)
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To: Havoc

Actually, the sun was created first, then the plants.


290 posted on 08/03/2004 4:04:38 PM PDT by ConservativeBamaFan (We know too much, and are convinced of too little. --T.S. Elliot)
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To: Havoc

Who says evolution "relegates man to an accident of nature". Evolution is silent as to whether there is meaning to the creation of humans. Evolution doesn't deal with "why are there all these different forms of life?" Evolution deals only with "how did there come to be all these forms of life?" Evolution is contradictory only to a literal interpretation of the Bible, not to religion in general. Evolution is a scientific theory, not a philosophical position. It seems that it is creationists who seek to make evolution what it is not.


347 posted on 08/04/2004 5:31:28 AM PDT by stremba
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To: Havoc
Evolution creates more problems than it solves and it blasphemes God in the doing.

And you know what insults God how?

In my view, God is insulted when people don't use their god-given gifts such as their brains to solve his mysteries.

The difference between the theory of evolution and creationism is that the former is a science, the latter is a dogma.

If you are intellectually honest you will admit the following. One of the things that scientists get the biggest kick out of is to disprove an existing theory. They are constantly testing and probing its limits. If they find new evidence that disproves a long held theory they are often rewarded with a Nobel prize because such a discovery usually enhances man's understanding of nature. (e.g. Einstein's theory of relativity, supplanting Newtons theories, and today String theorists are trying to supplant Einstein). So generally speaking scientists are more than eager to embrace a new theory if experiments or observations prove it superior to the old. There's no faith or religious attachment to a theory.

The same cannot be said of creationists. They (unlike scientists) don't eagerly look for data that might disprove their theory. Rather they feel threathned by such findings and look only for data that supports their views. Whereas scientists would have no problem changing or completely dumping a theory (such as evolution) if the facts justified it, creationists would never do such a thing. This is because creationism is faith and not science.

386 posted on 08/04/2004 8:12:41 AM PDT by aquila48
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