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To: Dimensio
Not a single one of your mined quotes discusses "natural selection".

Thus there is a paradox. Both nucleic acids and proteins are required to function before selection can act at present, and yet the origin of this association is too improbable to have occurred without selection. (T. Dobzhansky et al, Evolution, 1977, 359)

I'm not saying this thought is so convincing that all discussion is closed. It's just a curious thing.

Keep going back on the evolutionary trail and you come to this point. How did such complex structures as nucleic acids and proteins come to be? One can't exist without the other. They are interdependent.

268 posted on 08/03/2004 2:36:37 PM PDT by siunevada
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To: siunevada
Keep going back on the evolutionary trail and you come to this point. How did such complex structures as nucleic acids and proteins come to be? One can't exist without the other. They are interdependent.

If you are referring to the ultimate origins of the first life forms, such matters are outside the scope of the theory of evolution. If you aren't referring to the ultimate origins of life, then I'm afraid that you've lost me.
274 posted on 08/03/2004 3:06:51 PM PDT by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://www.aa419.org)
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To: siunevada

Thus there is a paradox. Both nucleic acids and proteins are required to function before selection can act at present, and yet the origin of this association is too improbable to have occurred without selection. (T. Dobzhansky et al, Evolution, 1977, 359)

I'm not saying this thought is so convincing that all discussion is closed. It's just a curious thing.

Keep going back on the evolutionary trail and you come to this point. How did such complex structures as nucleic acids and proteins come to be? One can't exist without the other. They are interdependent.

Thomas Cech earned the Nobel Prize in 1989 for discovering that this isn't always true. In fact there are over 300 examples of catalytic RNA that have been found in nature since then.

You might enjoy some of these (somewhat technical) video lectures by Cech. See especially RNA as an Enzyme: Discovery, Origins of Life, and Medical Possibilities [DSL version]

If you google on "Thomas Cech" or "ribozyme" you'll find a lot of articles on this.

303 posted on 08/03/2004 5:14:52 PM PDT by jennyp (Tremble and cower, Osama! John Edwards is comin' to getcha!)
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