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To: gobucks
The very fact so many of them bother to attempt to engage so many of us, even on so negative terms, is a very good sign.

I engage you because I care about conservatism, and I'd hate to reliquish it to biblical literalists, because I feel that would result in it becoming a perpetually shrunken political movement.

267 posted on 08/03/2004 2:35:52 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor (Raffiniert ist der Herrgott, aber boshaft ist Er nicht.)
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To: Right Wing Professor
...because I feel that would result in it becoming a perpetually shrunken political movement.

"Creationism: the Ice Water of Politics" placemarker

269 posted on 08/03/2004 2:38:09 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Right Wing Professor

I know many people who vote Democratic because of the perceived anti-science position taken by Republicans. Their comments run along the lines of: "If you cannot trust Republicans to do science correctly, how can you trust them with anything?"


271 posted on 08/03/2004 2:46:08 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Right Wing Professor

Let's cut to the chase: absolute truth is something 'true' conservatives don't argue much about ... we agree it exists (except true blue libertarian atheists).

A scientist believes the pathway to absolute truth (e.g., the second law of thermodynamics) comes from a group of folks demostrating reproducible results in a lab/journal environment.

A Christian (one who actually walks in that narrow road) also believes in 'absolute' truth, and in general they agree traditional science is a subset of it. Untestable theories are rejected as traditional science, or absolute truth, by your typical fundamentalist. A Christian would also argue that its the scientists who pirate from us the idea that you can arrive at absolute truth.

In short, we have more in common than we don't. The arguement hinges on the source of absolute truth. And there is a definite winner in the reality that we don't agree and are divided on this point ... and it's neither of us. Among the biggest losers are those who suffer in rotten marriages, or 'experience' divorce and the kids who become casualities within both.

I've noticed something ... your typical high visibility scientist has a typical high dysfunctional family life. But, no, publishing a study on that correlation is strictly verboten.



340 posted on 08/04/2004 2:58:48 AM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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