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To: whattajoke
How do you know a bat without wings never existed. Wouldn't this fly in the face of evolution. How did the Bat get wings? Oh, now it wasn't bats that never had wings, it was protobats (which of course you don't have any examples of). Oops, suddenly it isn't so funny that I should express the fact that you guys don't have transitions showing the protobat growing wings out of evolutionary accident or need. Evolution doesn't seem to create anything useful does it. And btw, why would I particularly care one way or another if either foxes or squirrels can glide? Cats land on their feet when the fall pretty much without fail. Neat trick; but, not especially indicative of a change from what cats have always done. Nor is there any evidence that they've ever done otherwise. Oh, wait, there's that tangeable proof thing lingering around again. How'd that happen..
216 posted on 08/03/2004 12:57:32 PM PDT by Havoc (.)
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To: Havoc
How do you know a bat without wings never existed.

Sigh. By definition, they weren't bats if they didn't have wings.

And btw, why would I particularly care one way or another if either foxes or squirrels can glide?

A rational person might consider that to be evidence of transitional species.

226 posted on 08/03/2004 1:11:06 PM PDT by Modernman ("I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: Havoc
You're the best! you are my favorite creationist. You have a knack for stumbling and bumbling over and through pretty much every goofy creationist idea, with no regard for what you are actually typing. Awesome. How do you know a bat without wings never existed.

Um, because they wouldn't be bats, by definition. (Keep in mind, please use a dictionary or zoology text when looking up what bats are. For, as I'm sure you know, the Bible calls bats "fowl," which, as I'm sure you know, happen to be avian, something which, as I'm sure you know, bats are not. Bats are mammals. Not birds. Fowl are birds. Not mammals. Careful where you learn your biology from.

Of course, bats are a creationist favorite (after the eye and bombadier beetles) since someone once learned that their fossil record is spotty (due to their habitats and tiny/brittle bones). So they get picked on. But, if you did a google search and weeded out the creationist sites, you could actually learn a thing or two.

And btw, why would I particularly care one way or another if either foxes or squirrels can glide?

Well, I think I know why you wouldn't care. Because you have no thirst for knowledge about the natural world around you. Others, however, may find gliding mammals (and reptiles and fish) rather an interesting evolutionary adaptation. "Hmmm," an inquisitive bloke might say, "All the squirrels I know can't glide. I wonder why these particular ones do. Perhaps, in their niche, their is an advantage to gliding, whereas in my backyard there isn't. I wonder why that is." Then they'd google something.
261 posted on 08/03/2004 2:17:06 PM PDT by whattajoke
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