How fortunate for you that you know such intellectual honest libs. There is no convincing those I come in contact, regardless of stark evidence.
I know just a couple, but regardless, they still have this irrational hatred of Bush. What is disturbing is the further we go along the less Libs seem to care about what is true and what is not.
It is amazing to see this insane turning away...because the hatred of someone outweighs what is correct and right.