Posted on 08/01/2004 5:35:58 PM PDT by Drammach
TheKansasCityChannel.com Texas Refuses To Recognize Mo. Concealed-Gun Permits Mo. Sheriffs Could Issue Some Permits Without Background Checks
POSTED: 3:22 PM CDT July 29, 2004 UPDATED: 3:58 PM CDT July 29, 2004
ST. LOUIS -- Missouri's concealed gun permits will not be honored in Texas because of concerns that Missouri permits can be issued before a federal fingerprint criminal background check is complete.
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Missouri's concealed-weapons law requires a sheriff to conduct a criminal background check on applicants before issuing a license. However, if the check is not completed within 45 days, the sheriff must issue the license anyway. Later, if the background check comes back showing the applicant should be disqualified, the sheriff must revoke the permit.
Texas officials said it was not possible to know from a Missouri permit whether the background check had been completed.
"With no way to distinguish between those Missouri concealed handgun licenses issued in accordance with what Texas law requires and those issued under other circumstances, it is not possible at this time to effectuate reciprocity," said a letter signed by Becky Pestana, an assistant attorney general in Texas.
Holden spokeswoman Mary Still said the letter reinforced Holden's "long-held belief" that the concealed guns law should be repealed.
The Legislature enacted Missouri's law last September by overriding the Holden veto. The law allows most Missourians age 23 and older to receive concealed weapons permits from their local sheriffs after passing a firearms training course, submitting to a background check and paying a fee.
Texas officials said recognition of Missouri's permit might be reconsidered under one of two conditions: If the permits could not be issued before completion of the federal criminal background checks, or if the permits issued before completion of the federal checks could be distinguished from those issued based on the completion of the background checks.
Previous Stories:
* July 26, 2004: Clay County Begins Accepting Concealed-Gun Permits * July 12, 2004: Platte County Starts Accepting Concealed-Gun Permits * May 17, 2004: State Readies Driver's Licenses For Concealed-Gun Holders * April 13, 2004: Some Mo. Counties Accepting Concealed-Gun Applications While Others Wait * March 11, 2004: KC Urges Businesses To Post Signs Prohibiting Concealed Guns * March 10, 2004: List Of Places Where Mo. Law Prohibits Concealed Guns
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Sounds like someone is playing games...
It's called RECIPROCITY and both TX and KS honor other states concealed carry laws. Check it out, cause somebody IS playing games.
45 days... Must Issue.. Do you know if Texas has the same requirement?
If not, what's theirs ? If so, where's the problem?
If a background check hasn't shown something in 45 days, I would expect 99.9% of applicants are "clean".. and not a problem..
Definitely playing games..
It's BS that you should need a "permit" or "reciprocity" to carry a gun anyway, but in the meantime, it's worth paying $$ so you don't get arrested for exercising your Rights.
Somebody's thinking Creedence Clearwater Revival instead of CCW !!!
The law with a date limit is to prevent a sheriff or PD from stalling applicants. CT has a 60 day limit.
Actually, Texas law states that the applicant must either receive a license to carry or be denied that license within 60 days.
There's a song in there somewhere...let's see..."accent the positive, effectuate the negative...reciprocate the affrimative..."....I'll get it sooner or later.
FMCDH(BITS)
U.S. Constitution, Article. IV., Section. 1.
"Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State."
Not necessarily, Arizona has a reciprocity agreement with a few states, but recently passed a bill to honor CCWs from many more states.
and both TX and KS honor other states concealed carry laws. Check it out, cause somebody IS playing games.
Kansas does not allow concealed carry, even by it's own citizens.
Sorry, that was Kansas City MISSOURI.....Missouri is a reciprocity state.
The Dems are so desperate to get Clinton's gun ban re-authorized...why not tie the semi-auto ban to a reciprocity bill? I think the benefits to nationwide CCW permit holders would far outweight the Clinton ban.
Thoughts?
No way Jose. We won't give up our RKBA, especially regarding weapons that are "militia weapons", to obtain a national permit to exercise our RKBA.
We'll we could end up without either!!
Let Clintoon's ban die and, if necessary, start from scratch. However, I think anything they do on that topic would be in violation of constitution.
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