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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

You really think it wasn't a good analogy? I was trying for something which was obvious without getting to gruesome...on the cutting room floor are worse analogies. I'll try to do better next time.


11 posted on 07/31/2004 11:03:15 PM PDT by Mark Noonan
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To: Mark Noonan

No problem. It's a tough issue. I think a Catholic beng for abortion is more like someone who is Jewish being for the Nazis. That's the closer analogy. But we get the point.


12 posted on 07/31/2004 11:55:52 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Mark Noonan

No problem. It's a tough issue. I think a Catholic beng for abortion is more like someone who is Jewish being for the Nazis. That's the closer analogy. But we get the point.


13 posted on 07/31/2004 11:55:53 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Mark Noonan
Kerry is afraid that if he doesn't at least bob and weave enough on the issue to give the Catholic authorities some wiggle room, he might be booted out of the Church, thus costing him the votes of those Catholics (about 40 million of the 65 million Catholics in the United States) who really take their Catholicism seriously.

I would say that Kerry already has lost the support of "those Catholics who really take their Catholicism seriously." His "Catholic" supporters are more the cafeteria Catholics who want to pick and choose. As for the analogy, in my opinion it wasn't strong enough simply because I don't think the Jewish faith considers violation of kosher requirements to be murder (I have only the very vaguest idea of the theological basis for the dietary requirements so I hope I'm not misstating anything here). There are also, I believe, several branches of Judaism with varying requirements. I just don't think the analogy goes far enough. The key point is that the Catholic church considers abortion to be murder. To understand the Catholic position, just substitute "murder" for "abortion" in any argument, i.e., "I don't condone murder, but I am not going to impose my views on anyone else," "the legal question has been settled that women have a right to murder"... etc. I believe that part of the problem is an idea that opposition to abortion is based on some complex point of Catholic theology (like kosher diet is to a non-Jewish person-- it's difficult to understand if you haven't studied it). The Catholic church's opposition to abortion is based on its opposition to murder. When Kerry supports abortion, he supports murder. You don't get to do that just because you were an altar boy or because you carried a rosary in Vietnam.

14 posted on 08/02/2004 6:27:25 AM PDT by GraceCoolidge
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