WHAT SAY YOU NOW, GROVER NORQUIST?

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[ClintonBeGone]

as was my reply to him -- is an attempt to let you off easy.

I need no favors from you.

[ClintonBeGone]

Grover Norquist is not Anti-Semitic.

Some of the Flintstones here can't seem to distinguish between being pro-muslim and anti-semitic. When you live in a two dimensional world, that handicap is often a pronounced one.

[ClintonBeGone]

and rather than address the issue raised in the appropriately, tastefully sarcastic remark, use it as a springboard to issue a "question" implying that the poster is a literal-minded slug.

The poster has already demonstrated that by actually attempting to engage in conversation.

[EternalVigilance]

Chickens coming home to roost.

In recent years, I have been among those who were warning Republicans in DC and Virginia against their growing associations with these people.

But the pull of money is strong.

Sad, but very predictable.

[jocon307]

"Maybe you were always closed minded and anti-muslim, or anti-immigrant."

Er, no I wasn't. If I was I certainly would have said "I told you so". In addition to having lived across the street from one of the men who bombed the WTC the first time (the one who went back for the truck deposit, iirc), I saw the attack on 9/11 with my own eyes, I went through some pretty tremendous mind changes in a very short time that day. As I say, in my mind the jury is still out on Muslims, although for the record, the Islamofacists from Africa to the Middle East to Europe to the Americas to the Pacific stand convicted as charged. On immigration, despite a lifetime of being basically an open borders advocate (with no undue financial benefits that is, I always used to say "I should have the right to go to Sri Lanka and be a cab driver, I don't have the right to go there and be on welfare" and of course no bi-lingual education, etc.) I instantly realized that our defacto open borders policy was killing Americans.

I don't need to dissemble to you or to anyone else, and I resent your implication that I did so.

Btw, I think you left out the link to the Norquist article. If you re-post I'll check it out.

[SJackson]

This is the source:…http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040731/ap_on_re_eu/poland_warsaw_uprising_2…These opinions are #18 and #19…It's not big deal, however I noticed that people who affirm to be Jews quite often announce similar opinions. I really know the difference between Warsaw Ghetto Uprising in 43 and Warsaw Uprising in 44, but it seems that many people still don't know it….I heard many times (even here on FR) about "legendary Polish antisemitism". It's true that not everyone in Poland loves Jews, but when I read this kind opinions I think that Jewish "antipolonism" is stronger than "legendary Polish antisemitism" - I don't know any Jew, so I can't check It….I asked you about It, because I noticed that you post a lot about Israel and generally about Jews, so I thought that you are conversant person….Neither I, nor my dictionary don't know the word "colluded".

Try Mirriam Webster colluded
Main Entry: col·lude
Pronunciation: k&-'lüd
Function: intransitive verb
Inflected Form(s): col·lud·ed; col·lud·ing
Etymology: Latin colludere, from com- + ludere to play, from ludus game -- more at
LUDICROUS : CONSPIRE, PLOT

Your apparent theory that Jewish “antipolism” is stronger than “legendary Polish anti-Semitism”, more accurately described as European anti-Semitism, is news to me. I’ve never heard any Polish bashing at synagogue or in conversation, though I’m aware that there are some Poles and Polish groups that hold that at the core of their worldview.

Why you’d consider a couple of anonymous posters at Yahoo who apparently don’t know the difference between the 43 and 44 Warsaw uprisings indicative of anything, or why I should answer for them is beyond me. If there’s anyone to criticize regarding the 44 uprising it’s the Russians, yes Jews likely in their ranks, who took their time entering the city.

You’re right, it’s not a big deal. It would be better if people were better informed, but that’s the internet.

[SJackson]

I'm not defending Norquist. I'm merely pointing out that he has friends at FRN. I am a member of FR but not of FRN and I have no loyalty to Norquist. Rather, my loyalty is to those at FR and elsewhere who are willing to question Norquist's judgement and motives.

I admit to not being informed as to the intrigues of FR or FRN.

Of course, reading the thread, I appear to be in the category of stupid FR poster. :>)

[SJackson]

Maybe you were always closed minded and anti-muslim, or anti-immigrant. Lots of folks like this here on this site and thread like that. 9-1-1 just allowed them to show more of their prejudices. Here is a good article on Norquist, written by the left. He's simply a guy with an agenda to role back government, and will take his allies any way they arrive - and I think that's where most people have a problem.

I don't support Grover. I don't think the Republican party needs the support of terrorists or terrorist sympathizers. I don't think he's antisemitic, I think the estate taxes=the Holocaust statement flowed from pure stupidity, intellectual and political stupidity, though I'm apparently one of those stupid FR posters myself.

Bring Grover and his terrorist pals into the mainstream of the campaign and astute Democratic strategist (which they're missing) can tie that to GWB's Saudi connections to great political advantage.

[Grzegorz 246]

"Your apparent theory that Jewish “antipolism” is stronger than “legendary Polish anti-Semitism”"

That's just my impression.
I've got really a lot of respect for Israel and Jews, but sometimes I think that Jewish-Polish relations are worse than Jewish-German relations.

Look at #5 here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1182769/posts

[SJackson]

"Your apparent theory that Jewish “antipolism” is stronger than “legendary Polish anti-Semitism”"...That's just my impression...I've got really a lot of respect for Israel and Jews, but sometimes I think that Jewish-Polish relations are worse than Jewish-German relations...Look at #5 here:

Again, i can't answer for other posters. To me there was nothing anti-Polish in that post. Apparently the poster didn't know the difference between 43 and 44 Warsaw, and you corrected him.

[ClintonBeGone]

Sorry, here is the link:

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20010514&s=dreyfuss

The story really shows what Grover's agenda is. He's willing to accept anybody into his 'center-right' coalition, provide they are willing to support his agenda. It's not unlike Reagan's saying regarding campaign donors - (paraphrased) 'it's not that I accept their agenda, it's that they've accepted mine.'

[NCPAC]

You do have a way with words.

For the record, as for Norquist: I HAD a high opinion of him. That has been derailed to Hell since his on-going ties with the jihadists have come to view.

[jocon307]

"Bring Grover and his terrorist pals into the mainstream of the campaign and astute Democratic strategist (which they're missing) can tie that to GWB's Saudi connections to great political advantage."

Yes, I agree with that, it's certainly a concern.

[EveningStar]

I am NOT speaking in the 3rd person. Please check out my other posts.

[Sabertooth]

Grover Norquist is not Anti-Semitic.

We're years beyond the point where that even matters.

Whatever his motives, G. Grover Norquist has facilitated numerous penetrations of American circles of power by pro-jihadist terror sympathizers and conspirators. Those penetrations are ongoing. Norquist's ad hominem smears and race-baiting of anyone questioning his radical Islamic affiliations are unabated and unretracted.

If Grover Norquit's Islamist chums were in control of U.S. foreign policy, Israel would face utter destruction as America tilted in favor of the genocidal regimes that surround the Jewish Homeland.

Should the loss of Zion ever come to pass, some of Norquist's best friends (who are no doubt Jews!) would be able to console themseves by saying "at least Grover's not an anti-Semite."

[Sabertooth]

Bring Grover and his terrorist pals into the mainstream of the campaign and astute Democratic strategist (which they're missing) can tie that to GWB's Saudi connections to great political advantage.

You have to wonder when the Dems will use these shots...

Thanks, Grover.

[Sabertooth]

If Norquist was a leftist and this news came out, Freepers would be shredding him on these boards.

Remember when the feminists circled the wagons around Clinton, even though he treated women like trash? Remember how revelatory their Machiavellian choice was to conservatives?

However, it appears that folks of all political stripes develop attachments for repugnant allies, and find them difficult to cut loose. Even at FR.

Pat Buchanan is one example, and for reasons of his own, Grover Norquist is another.

I wonder what tune of dudgeon Grover's defenders here would whistle if it had been Buchanan who had facilitated jihadist access to President Bush?

[Don Joe]

Gaffney is a stooge for the military/industrial complex and is one of those completely obsessed with war in the middle east. Horowitz simply does not like muslims or anyone that cavorts with them.

How readily you paint your targets with the same brush you accuse others of applying to your buddies Norquist and Rove.

Interesting, very interesting...

[Don Joe]

Whatever.

[Don Joe]

Some of the Flintstones here can't seem to distinguish between being pro-muslim and anti-semitic. When you live in a two dimensional world, that handicap is often a pronounced one.

LOL!

I guess us bumpkins ain't blessed with the "nuance" necessary to doublethink our way to something akin to "hobnobs with the most vile antisemites on earth, but doesn't dislike jews."