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Governor vetoes Scott's gun bill(Schwarzenegger)
LA Times ^ | July 30, 2004 | Jackson Bell

Posted on 07/30/2004 11:18:22 AM PDT by neverdem

Critics applaud rejection of state senator's bill to have gun safety taught in high schools.

GLENDALE — A pro-arms organization applauded Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's veto of what it called a biased bill written by state Sen. Jack Scott (D-Glendale) aimed at teaching teens about gun violence and prevention.

The bill, rejected by Schwarzenegger on July 20, would have required public high school health education teachers to instruct students about the dangers of guns.

But the bill would have allowed for anti-gun propaganda to be taught under the guise of safety since it was written without state guidelines preventing anti-gun bias, said Alan Gottlieb, chairman of Washington-based Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

"It basically would have allowed [schools] to talk about all the evils of gun and gun ownership without showing the positive," Gottlieb said. "It would have been used to manipulate the system and make gun owners the boogeymen."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: antigunpropaganda; banglist

1 posted on 07/30/2004 11:18:28 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Today I like Arnold. Other days, I don't.


2 posted on 07/30/2004 11:19:53 AM PDT by RockinRight (Liberalism IS the status quo)
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To: neverdem
A pro-arms organization

What??? If we are to use the LA Times standard it would be more accurate to speak of them as a Pro-Choice Oganization.

3 posted on 07/30/2004 11:21:03 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Santorum 2008)
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To: RockinRight

Good.


4 posted on 07/30/2004 11:21:10 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: neverdem

The RINO! (/sarcasm)


5 posted on 07/30/2004 11:21:29 AM PDT by My2Cents ("Fair, balanced...and unafraid.")
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To: neverdem

I'll give Schwarzenegger points for this.


6 posted on 07/30/2004 11:23:10 AM PDT by StoneColdGOP (Nothing is Bush's fault... Nothing is Bush's fault... Nothing is Bush's fault...)
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To: neverdem

Arnold did good! Anyone think Davis would have vetoed this?


7 posted on 07/30/2004 11:24:20 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: neverdem

Two thoughts:
1. This would have cost the taxpayers extra money and time.
2. Excellent avenue to propagandize youths against guns, and make them believe the Brady Bill works.


8 posted on 07/30/2004 11:29:32 AM PDT by Ramonan (You never get something for nothing..)
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To: neverdem
CONGRATULATIONS, GOVERNOR!
Now while you've got that "Veto-Pen" out, how 'bout drawing some lines through a few billion dollar expenditures in the budget...hmmmmmmmm
9 posted on 07/30/2004 11:30:26 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: neverdem

Ya' done good Arnie. I take back ONE of those times I called you a RINO.


10 posted on 07/30/2004 11:35:01 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: neverdem

One of the very few advantages of living under the totalitarian thumb of a despotic dictatorship is that there would be no laws named after dead children. You don't see Kim Jung Il touting "Tiffany's Law" or whatever.


11 posted on 07/30/2004 11:44:05 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

in China ,it would be Berger's Law


12 posted on 07/30/2004 11:52:56 AM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the Piece- "HOPE" : Hand Over Paycheck Envelope)
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To: neverdem
"Schwarzenegger vetoed the bill for gun-safety education because current law already encourages schools to address gun safety in violence-prevention programs."

Hoplophobia will continue to be taught in schools.

Hoplophobia (pronounced HOP-li-fobia), from the Greek hoplon, or weapon, is an invented phobia coined by firearms instructor Colonel Jeff Cooper in 1962. His intent was to suggest that those who view the widespread possession of firearms in the US as harmful to society and cannot be persuaded otherwise are mentally ill, so their arguments should be ignored. He suggested that "the most common manifestation of hoplophobia is the idea that instruments possess a will of their own, apart from that of their user'".

13 posted on 07/30/2004 11:54:41 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR (Don't blame me - I voted for McClintock!)
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To: TERMINATTOR

Thanks for the etymology of hoplophobia.


14 posted on 07/30/2004 12:01:35 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

Too bad the Governator and a few pubs with backbones couldn't change the bill to require the Eddie Eagle program. "Well, you want gun safety training? Here, use this nationally recognized program from the NRA. Who better knows gun safety?" Then watch the RATs suddenly decide gun safety training was a bad thing. It would be sweet irony.


15 posted on 07/30/2004 12:08:23 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("I actually was going to throw like a man before I threw like a girl." JFK 7/25/2004)
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To: neverdem

Silly me, I thought a course on "gun safety" would show students how to use them correctly.


16 posted on 07/30/2004 12:25:27 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: kellynla
CONGRATULATIONS, GOVERNOR! Now while you've got that "Veto-Pen" out, how 'bout drawing some lines through a few billion dollar expenditures in the budget...hmmmmmmmm

Right ON!! This is the old trick. Give the conservatives a small bone like this (althought it's so stupid) & then stick it to them on a real issue. Same game - different politician.

17 posted on 07/30/2004 12:38:48 PM PDT by Digger
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To: neverdem

He's 2 for 2 today~!


18 posted on 08/28/2004 4:30:09 PM PDT by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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