[Ken H]

Now think about that, Ken H. If the state militias were under federal control, then they're not much use in overthrowing a tyrannical government are they?

Are you disputing that Congress and the President control State Militia or State National Guard?

That aside, as long as the individual RKBA is maintained and exercised, it should suffice for such a purpose if it becomes necessary.

So, now what do you say?

I would like you to answer my question on whether or not there was a time since 1789 when State Militia/National Guard were not under Federal control.

[robertpaulsen]

"Federal control". God, you do twist words to suit you.

State militias were under state control. An act of Congress could call forth the state militia "to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections, and repel Invasions".

During that time, and for those specific reasons, state militias would be under "federal control".

After that time, they revert back to the state.

I don't care about the National Guard. The second amendment does not apply to the National Guard.