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Oh Bama! “The belief in things not seen.”
The National Review.Com ^ | 7-28-04 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 07/28/2004 6:07:03 PM PDT by hope

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To: hope

Look, lefties are not and never will be "patriots" no matter how much they posture.


21 posted on 07/28/2004 6:44:31 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("A republic, if we can revive it")
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To: bpjam

"There was not a single thing in his speech which virtually anybody disagreed with,which basically means that he didn't say anything."

Bingo. Obama epitomizes the term "empty suit": All rhetorical flash with no depth.


22 posted on 07/28/2004 6:45:03 PM PDT by NCPAC ("Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: marron
His speech does not echo his party's ideas..Makes you wonder about it's authenticity.
23 posted on 07/28/2004 6:47:01 PM PDT by hope ( Let no man deceive you!)
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To: marron
Unfortunately, Bama is a distinct minority in the present day Democratic Party. A man who actually believes in God is sadly out of place over there.

Don't believe the tripe!

24 posted on 07/28/2004 6:49:36 PM PDT by X-FID ( The police aren't in the streets to create disorder; they are in the streets to preserve disorder.)
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To: Dragonspirit

This is the National Review...


25 posted on 07/28/2004 6:50:22 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Tell that to Jesus. "I am the way, the truth, and the life..."

"the truth will set you free..."

Since helping your neighbors is a truth of God, it seems to me that that is the very epitome of freedom sir.

Of course, Obama was using these lines for gain...he doesn't actually believe them.


26 posted on 07/28/2004 6:52:23 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: bayourod

Right. If he's elected to the office he's running for, they'll just bring him out for "speechifying". The only Blacks that get anywhere with the dems seem to be the race-baiters like JJ and Al.


27 posted on 07/28/2004 6:53:03 PM PDT by Theresawithanh ( Flush the Johns in 2004!!!!!)
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To: marron

"But a Democrat Party with a moral center, wouldn't that be a concept?"

It's not a concept, it's an oxymoron......more moron than oxy however!


28 posted on 07/28/2004 6:55:30 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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The intellectuals of the younger generations, of which Obama is a member, are more dedicated to truth and less to rhetoric than their forefathers, on average. Obama and Harold Ford are less likely to agree with total nonsense than Ted Kennedy and Barbara Boxer. Anderson Cooper and Bill Hemmer are less naive and partisan than Dan Rather and Walter Cronkite. Even Ben Affleck is less shrill and nonsensical than Richard Dreyfuss and Barbra Streisand.

In the information age, bad information is shunned by those who know millions are watching and fact-checking. With any luck, the rhetoric will die down with the old guard.

29 posted on 07/28/2004 6:55:35 PM PDT by twgiles
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To: DaiHuy

The "blue states" do worship an "ah, some god". Under Klinton, these states were called the "blew states". It only became "blue" when the stained dress appeared."


30 posted on 07/28/2004 7:00:26 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: hope
Obama is now the shiny new toy. Once you've played with it, the novelty fades.

Once he gets to Capitol Hill, he'll be told to fall in line.

(Remember Cuomo's 'speech' and how it signalled his greatness???)

31 posted on 07/28/2004 7:09:30 PM PDT by atomicpossum (I give up! Entropy, you win!)
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To: bpjam

You're right. There was nothing in his speech that can be disagreed with -- which, as my husband says, is typical of a Democrat's style. But he delivered it with an evident idealism and with such a passion that makes you think he will really do what he can to make these things come true.

In that, he was effective. He might be able to swing some undecided voters to their side. MIGHT. Because it's still hard to connect his passion and idealism to John Kerry. It's not effecive enough to cover Kerry's "vagueness" -- or should I say "fakeness"?


32 posted on 07/28/2004 7:11:30 PM PDT by mewper
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To: Trust but Verify

"You are exactly right. White liberals will never vote for a black man for President, or even the Senate. Never."

I don't know if you're being sarcastic, but if you're not then I disagree. I think there's a collective white guilt in the US about blacks. Just look at how some CONSERVATIVES (!!) here on this board are softening up to him in this thread! Think they'd do that if Kerry or Edwards invoked God in their speeches?

By the way, there's nothing in his platform http://issues2000.org/Senate/Barack_Obama.htm that sounds potentially Republican. The speech is just shameless pandering to the center-right crowd.


33 posted on 07/28/2004 7:33:52 PM PDT by French-American Republican
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To: bayourod
You know the Democrats call black conservatives house Negroes for the party. But we already know that white liberals will not vote for black liberals. There are enough black people in Chicago to vote for Obama while the other two white Democrats split the white vote. This is how Harold Washington got elected mayor. This guy is dangerous he is getting money from George Soros and that makes him a socialist or quasi communist.
34 posted on 07/28/2004 7:34:45 PM PDT by Warrior Nurse (Black & white liberals practice intellectual apartheid when in comes to black conservatives!)
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To: Warrior Nurse

The thing I noticed about Obama's speech was that he left out "endowed their creator" from his quote of the Declaration of Independence.


35 posted on 07/28/2004 7:47:09 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: hope

That's what I heard at work today. Lots about Obama and what a wonderful speaker and human being he is.


36 posted on 07/28/2004 7:58:03 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: jwalburg

I thought it was:
love the world,hate your neighbor.


37 posted on 07/28/2004 8:03:05 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the Piece-(carry daily;apply sparingly))
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To: Paul Atreides

"We worship an awesome God in the Blue States."

Molech? Ishtar? Dagon?


38 posted on 07/28/2004 8:16:34 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Defund CPB, NPR and PBS.)
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To: Rakkasan1

I think you're right there. Much easier to love a vague, amorphous ideal than the woman down the street who only shops at Costco and buys large jars of mayonnaise.


39 posted on 07/28/2004 8:24:20 PM PDT by jwalburg (Hatriots for Kerry)
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To: bayourod
Obama may be the Democrat's version of Alan Keyes.

Which is why it's a shame that Keyes -- as a social conservative -- can't get any air time.

40 posted on 07/28/2004 8:25:54 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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