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To: TigersEye

Know any Catholics, genius??


86 posted on 07/28/2004 5:56:01 PM PDT by Mister Blond
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To: Mister Blond
Know any Catholics, genius??

Now you are the first to call names. That one may be appropriate to me however. ; )

What difference does it make whether I know any Catholics? Know any biologists, Einstein?

88 posted on 07/28/2004 6:00:58 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: Mister Blond
The subject is embryonic humans. I think it's safe to say that your non-response to my assertion that Christians led the way to aboloshing slavery in Britain and America is a concession to the point.

If you have any enlightening information on the subject of the thread please share it.

89 posted on 07/28/2004 6:05:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: Mister Blond
Know any Catholics, genius??

Fact is I don't.

But I found this:

The Truth About the Catholic Church and Slavery
The problem wasn't that the leadership was silent. It was that almost nobody listened. By Rodney Stark

As early as the seventh century, Saint Bathilde (wife of King Clovis II) became famous for her campaign to stop slave-trading and free all slaves; in 851 Saint Anskar began his efforts to halt the Viking slave trade. That the Church willingly baptized slaves was claimed as proof that they had souls, and soon both kings and bishops—including William the Conqueror (1027-1087) and Saints Wulfstan (1009-1095) and Anselm (1033-1109)—forbade the enslavement of Christians.

Since, except for small settlements of Jews, and the Vikings in the north, everyone was at least nominally a Christian, that effectively abolished slavery in medieval Europe, except at the southern and eastern interfaces with Islam where both sides enslaved one another's prisoners. But even this was sometimes condemned: in the tenth century, bishops in Venice did public penance for past involvement in the Moorish slave trade and sought to prevent all Venetians from involvement in slavery. Then, in the thirteenth century, Saint Thomas Aquinas deduced that slavery was a sin, and a series of popes upheld his position, beginning in 1435 and culminating in three major pronouncements against slavery by Pope Paul III in 1537.

That should put to rest any argument that Catholics had papal backing for slavery. Looks like the official kabosh came shortly after Columbus hit the American shore. American slavery had no backing there.

91 posted on 07/28/2004 6:49:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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