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OSHKOSH POLICE CONDUCT DOOR TO DOOR GUN CONFISCATIONS
Wisconsin Gun Owners Inc. ^ | 7-17-04

Posted on 07/27/2004 9:46:21 AM PDT by JOAT

TYRANNY ALERT!

OSHKOSH POLICE CONDUCT DOOR TO DOOR GUN CONFISCATIONS

Shooting of Oshkosh police officer results in knee jerk neighborhood gun grab

Oshkosh, Wis. -- Following the shooting of an Oshkosh police officer Saturday night, area residents were forced from their homes, their lawful firearms being confiscated by police.

The Oshkosh Police Department's Special Weapons and Tactics Unit responded to the area, with a K-9 police dog in pursuit of the perpetrator who was reported to have fled on foot.

Citizens' guns were seized through searches of area homes. The police promised to return the firearms after forensic tests proved they were not involved in the crime. The injured officer's name was withheld, but media reports indicate his condition is not life-threatening.

"The message is: Hand over your guns, now!" said Corey Graff, executive director of Wisconsin Gun Owners Inc. "This is a blatant case of guilty-until-proven-innocent and an abuse of police power."

Still, residents in the area are furious about the home invasions by police and what they see as theft of their property. Although early reports are unclear, they indicate a search warrant was issued for two homes, yet additional home owners also had firearms confiscated.

"We want the perpetrator of this crime caught and brought to justice just like everyone else," said Graff. "But that doesn't mean the police should trample citizens' 4th amendment protections, steal lawful private property and enter the home without reasonable suspicion or warrant."

One homeowner in the area said his guns were taken by police, guns that hadn't left his gun safe since last hunting season. Another victim of the police searches -- an elderly women -- reported waking up to officers' searching her home in the early morning hours.

The Oshkosh Northwestern reported, "Residents were not being allowed to return to their homes by press time."


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; oshkosh; wodlist
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To: Mikey_1962

Yeah, but the fact is, they've already done it! If you don't have the resources to fight them you loose. These cops are criminals and I don't care what specious arguements they use. The old "I'm just doing my job" excuse won't do. Of course, if someone had resisted this un-lawful search they would be lucky to escape with their lives. Thugs.


41 posted on 07/27/2004 10:18:05 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: JOAT
OSHKOSH................

MYGOSH

42 posted on 07/27/2004 10:19:14 AM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I don't believe anything a Democrat says. Bill Clinton set the standard!)
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To: JOAT

I shoot home intruders on sight. Lucky for them I don't live there.


43 posted on 07/27/2004 10:19:53 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Mikey_1962

NO warrant? Simply close the door and tell them to come back with one.


44 posted on 07/27/2004 10:20:52 AM PDT by 1stFreedom
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Isn't this a violation of the FOURTH amendment? (The oft-forgotten amendment.)

And these days, in my opinion, the only one that matters.

45 posted on 07/27/2004 10:20:57 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (May the wings of Liberty never lose so much as a feather.)
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To: nobdysfool

If they have bonds (which I believe they are required to) you can sue them. I don't think the bonding agency will be very happy with this but it will apply a lot pressure. This is nothing but the police state flexing it's muscles. What cracks me up is watching Cops and the Police officers always say that they "just want to help people".


46 posted on 07/27/2004 10:21:13 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: nina0113

Yeah but then you get hammered by the "well, if you don't have anything to hide" crowd. Then you will become a 'person of interest'.


47 posted on 07/27/2004 10:24:19 AM PDT by Jaded (Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain)
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To: johnfrink
If you don't have a valid right to randomly search houses looking for a gun, then anything you find in those searches will also be bounced.

Fruits of the poisonous tree.

48 posted on 07/27/2004 10:24:30 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (May the wings of Liberty never lose so much as a feather.)
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To: JOAT
I have updated my FMCDH sign-off with the addition of (BITS).....Blood In The Streets, which I foresee coming soon, due to the enormous increase of the communist progressive movement being shoved down the throat of this failing REPUBLIC through the Judicial tyranny of fiat law, and the passing of unconstitutional laws by the Legislative and Executive branches of our government.

FMCDH(BITS)

49 posted on 07/27/2004 10:25:23 AM PDT by nothingnew (KERRY: "If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again!")
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To: JOAT; All

This is a valid case for the ACLU, however, I doubt very much they will be fighting this case.


50 posted on 07/27/2004 10:25:46 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: JOAT

C.D.H. Bump


51 posted on 07/27/2004 10:27:56 AM PDT by two23
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To: JOAT
You need to use "banglist" as a keyword above, to link to the old "*bang_list" bookmarks most folks still use. Just say NO to tyranny!

Molon Labe!

52 posted on 07/27/2004 10:28:00 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR (Don't blame me - I voted for McClintock!)
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To: JOAT

Look, even if this article is 100% factual from beginning to end, don't sweat it. The ACLU will come in and sort this all out. It's their job. [/snot]


53 posted on 07/27/2004 10:29:20 AM PDT by Gefreiter ("Ignorance is king. Many would not prosper by its abdication.")
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To: JOAT

I thought this was Massachusetts until I read further...


54 posted on 07/27/2004 10:32:16 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Lunatic Fringe
I read all three of the articles you posted, and all I can say is:SO WHAT?

Nothing, and I mean nothing, should allow the police to enter anyone's home without probable cause AND a search warrant. They certainly aren't Constitutionally allowed to take people's property without a properly processed search warrant.

The fact that none of these reports, except the one mentioning that 2 guns were taken, does not mean it didn't happen.

Time for you to think about what you're reaction would be if the cops showed up at night, entered your home, rummaged through your property, and decided to take some of it with them.

55 posted on 07/27/2004 10:34:02 AM PDT by basil (I'm sick of politicking politicians!)
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To: JOAT

WTF?

Has anyone verified this story in one of the local papers? This doesn't pass the smell test. It would have made national headlines for the scope of Constitutional abuses.


56 posted on 07/27/2004 10:34:47 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: thefactor
this press release is most likely a ploy to raise membership with its inflammatory language.

Obviously. The WGO purposely inflames with the use of "Tyranny Alert" and "Project Gestapo" on their home page.


57 posted on 07/27/2004 10:35:42 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: thefactor

And the newspapers have no agenda????? If you believe this I have a bridge to sell you! You don't think that the papers could have conveniently left out some "facts"?

I'm not saying the press release is entirely "factual" but I certainly don't believe everything I read in the "biased" press.


58 posted on 07/27/2004 10:35:48 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama (Can The Ban - let the AWB sunset • www.2asisters.org • www.cantheban.net)
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To: dljordan
These cops are criminals and I don't care what specious arguements they use. The old "I'm just doing my job" excuse won't do. Of course, if someone had resisted this un-lawful search they would be lucky to escape with their lives. Thugs.

And some folks wonder how this guy ever came up with the ideas for his raps.


59 posted on 07/27/2004 10:36:05 AM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: Sir Gawain
I shoot home intruders on sight. Lucky for them I don't live there.

Why do these threads always bring out posters that would shoot cops?

60 posted on 07/27/2004 10:36:45 AM PDT by cinFLA
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