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OSHKOSH POLICE CONDUCT DOOR TO DOOR GUN CONFISCATIONS
Wisconsin Gun Owners Inc. ^ | 7-17-04

Posted on 07/27/2004 9:46:21 AM PDT by JOAT

TYRANNY ALERT!

OSHKOSH POLICE CONDUCT DOOR TO DOOR GUN CONFISCATIONS

Shooting of Oshkosh police officer results in knee jerk neighborhood gun grab

Oshkosh, Wis. -- Following the shooting of an Oshkosh police officer Saturday night, area residents were forced from their homes, their lawful firearms being confiscated by police.

The Oshkosh Police Department's Special Weapons and Tactics Unit responded to the area, with a K-9 police dog in pursuit of the perpetrator who was reported to have fled on foot.

Citizens' guns were seized through searches of area homes. The police promised to return the firearms after forensic tests proved they were not involved in the crime. The injured officer's name was withheld, but media reports indicate his condition is not life-threatening.

"The message is: Hand over your guns, now!" said Corey Graff, executive director of Wisconsin Gun Owners Inc. "This is a blatant case of guilty-until-proven-innocent and an abuse of police power."

Still, residents in the area are furious about the home invasions by police and what they see as theft of their property. Although early reports are unclear, they indicate a search warrant was issued for two homes, yet additional home owners also had firearms confiscated.

"We want the perpetrator of this crime caught and brought to justice just like everyone else," said Graff. "But that doesn't mean the police should trample citizens' 4th amendment protections, steal lawful private property and enter the home without reasonable suspicion or warrant."

One homeowner in the area said his guns were taken by police, guns that hadn't left his gun safe since last hunting season. Another victim of the police searches -- an elderly women -- reported waking up to officers' searching her home in the early morning hours.

The Oshkosh Northwestern reported, "Residents were not being allowed to return to their homes by press time."


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; oshkosh; wodlist
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To: ex 98C MI Dude
Yah think cops ever dropped a piece of brass on a "person of interest's" property, and then declared, "Well looky here!"

Nah. I'm sure they would NEVER do anything like that.

161 posted on 07/27/2004 7:07:54 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: JOAT

b'gosh!!!


162 posted on 07/27/2004 7:14:41 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: spunkets
The over use of so-called "consent searches" is getting beyond problematic, bordering on becoming a police state tactic.

Sirens through your neighborhood, loudspeaker broadcasts. A squad of black kevlar clad SWAT troops arrive on your doorstep, bang on your door, and request "consent" to search your house. They mention that everyone else on your block has already granted "consent," and hint strongly that if "consent" is not given, they will return with a warrant, and roughly ransack your house.

How many citizens will have the nerve to refuse to grant "consent" under these highly coercive conditions?
163 posted on 07/27/2004 7:23:21 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
They mention that everyone else on your block has already granted "consent,"

Which unless you are literally the last, would have to be a lie, but our fine Courts have declared that this is A-ok for Keystoners.

164 posted on 07/27/2004 7:25:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Travis McGee

There ought to be a law.


165 posted on 07/27/2004 7:27:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
They also go onto buses and "ask" for "consent" to search bags for drugs.

Heavily armed men in black kevlar body armor "asking" for "consent" from citizens is a police state tactic.

166 posted on 07/27/2004 7:29:02 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

I hate to say it, but when black men think their ox is gored by the man and riot, they get appeased. Joe Redneck who politely protests? He is only laughed at.


167 posted on 07/27/2004 7:36:08 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: the OlLine Rebel; Conspiracy Guy; MeekOneGOP; Smartass; B4Ranch; devolve; PhilDragoo; JohnHuang2; ..

PINGing you to a tyranny thread if you haven't seen it yet.


168 posted on 07/27/2004 7:40:20 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: StriperSniper

Pardon me, but I thought it would be relevant for those who are supposed to enforce the law to actually KNOW what the law says.

How silly of me to think those entrusted with a job should actually be COMPETENT.


169 posted on 07/27/2004 7:56:40 PM PDT by Don W (It's not our abilities that make us who we are, it's our choices.)
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To: JOAT

Not in my neighborhood!


170 posted on 07/27/2004 8:06:44 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (They are where you least expect. Look around and you'll see them too.)
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To: JOAT
"The message is: Hand over your guns, now!"

Only From My Cold Dead Fingers

171 posted on 07/27/2004 8:13:33 PM PDT by Gone_Postal (government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take it away)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

"Isn't this a violation of the FOURTH amendment?"

Blatant violation. The citizens should call for the head of the police departments head. Every officer involved should be suspended without pay.

What is even more frightening is:

"Residents were not being allowed to return to their homes by press time."

I would be lining up lawyers for a class action lawsuit.


172 posted on 07/27/2004 8:17:50 PM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: MediaMole

"Oshkosh police ask neighbors to scour yards for missing bullet."

Normally, I would be happy to help them but if they broke into my home without a warrant and stole my property, I would have told them to get F%#C@ed.


173 posted on 07/27/2004 8:19:55 PM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: Happy2BMe; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; B4Ranch; Grampa Dave; Smartass; devolve
As a consequence of a cop shooting the Constitution shall be suspended;

SWAT means never having to say you're sorry;

You're in your residence, obeying the law, watching COPS when--

KNOCK!KNOCK!KNOCK!KNOCK!

Backannawackettarackjack! Do it now!

"Excuse me? How can I help you?"

YackannawabackannawaCONSENTTOSEARCHwangabangadabluemoon!

"I'm sorry, I'm having trouble understanding you--"

FackanawabackanaALLYOURNEIGHBORSCAVEDANDIFYOUDON'TIT'SWACOBARBECUETIME!

"Oh, I see--"

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Is it a "reasonable" search? Or is it another bad day for We're-Cops-And-You're-Not?

Don't take a chance: 1-800-L-GUNZN-M

174 posted on 07/27/2004 8:23:15 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: JOAT

The follow-up story in these parts would read:
"3 more officers shot attempting forced search at the wrong house."


175 posted on 07/27/2004 8:26:55 PM PDT by G Larry (Support John Thune!)
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To: .38sw

Beware! After the next attack occurs, ( not a matter of what if, but when!) If it's combat related, Marshall WILL be invoked!

Best to prepare in advance.

HIDE YOUR WEAPONS WELL!!!


176 posted on 07/27/2004 8:33:33 PM PDT by NYTexan
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To: NYTexan

oops..............thats Marshall LAW


177 posted on 07/27/2004 8:34:51 PM PDT by NYTexan
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To: JOAT

Why so we can't protect ourselves from the impending attacks from terrorists?


178 posted on 07/27/2004 8:35:16 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Happy2BMe
DEAR SAY WHERE IS THE INFAMOUS ACLU?

ooooOOOOppPPPSSSss, I forgot, their at the DNC convention!
179 posted on 07/27/2004 8:43:58 PM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Travis McGee
Reading between the lines,I get the idea that people gave their consent,possibly even their keys,to check their homes for the "suspect" that could have entered after their own Police ordered evacuation.

If these people were home,they'd have known that the Police had taken their arms.

It doesn't sound like consent was given for anything more than a looksee for a dangerous individual and the Police took every advantage of goodhearted,law abiding citizens once they got the chance.

Many people would quickly give consent to a Police walk-through to check for the perp,being fearful of encountering the suspect upon their return.

"If" done "intentionally" as theorized..... :(

180 posted on 07/27/2004 9:56:53 PM PDT by Free Trapper (ALF & ELF - Future Bog People)
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