Posted on 07/26/2004 7:47:41 PM PDT by knak
The Euroweenians tried dealmaking with Hitler, too. Didn't work then, won't work now.
Once again, the membership to the Neville Chamberlain Fan Club proves it is incapable of repeating history.
Once again, the membership to the Neville Chamberlain Fan Club proves it is incapable of NOT repeating history.
Sorry... Must be past my bedtime.
*sigh*
If Iran hits us with a nuke, it won't be fired, it will be smuggled in, possibly across the Mexican or Canadian borders. Our ABM systems will be useless.
Well, then, if they smuggle one or more in for a sneak attack, we will break all their toys. If somebody else tries to take advantage while we are trying to bring relief to the place or places hit by such a sneak attack, we will break all their toys, too. That is how the nuke game is played. I spent some of my working career making sure we could indeed break all their toys, and we will be able to do so.
using nukes isnt useful. everyone loses. its the active non-use of held nukes that iran wants in on. israel doesnt have to fire these weapons to feel their benefit.
nukes make you uninvadeable. noone is going to push you to extinction or defeat because you have the power to take them with you.
iran doesnt want nukes to use, it wants them so the usa cannot invade them.
They aren't 'tupid. They know if they scare us enough we will nuke them to the grubs and berries stage. We have done it before and will do it again.
And; if Doofus-Dork-Lurch sits in the Oval Office in January; whom do you think will assume this responsibility? ... Rhetorical question of course. If Lurch is elected, this country is TOAST.
I'm gettin' too old for this.
<>I would but the BeltWay boys wouldn't allow W or Rummy to use that ordnance. We'd pussy foot around and (well it's not a bad idea to play with the new F/A22 Raptor and other neat toys) and back off using nukes.
The entire world (with the exception of 'moi') would be in hysterics if we lit off a nuke.
Perskonally, I'd rip Mecca the next time an American is beheaded. Bing-Bang-BOOOM! Reload... /rant
That's a good question. A fair bet is that the perps would be found fairly soon. After all, nukes are special items, well researched. Each device would leave a distinctive signature pointing directly at it origin, and its path from factory to destination would be of interest to many investigative agencies.
iran doesnt want nukes to use, it wants them so the usa cannot invade them.
What causes you to think that way?
True, they would consider America a pariah among nations for a long time to come. That's the way it goes.
I think 9/11 proved that investigating after the fact - like what happened after the first time jihadis tried to destroy the WTC, in 1993 - is not good enough. It must not be allowed to happen in the first place, not when it is every bit as predictable as the Iranians reneging on this deal with the EU.
Iran is playing with fire here. If they are not careful the UN might just pass a resolution. If they still haven't had enough, as brutal as it sounds, the UN might even issue another one. Iran had just better watch their step.
they get no benefit from using them. most of the anti-usa, anti-israel stuff is simply part of the internal politics of the country. unfortunately for the mullahs, the crazed, militant part of their populace that eats up the anti-west rhetoric for dinner has been swamped by the more progressive children of the revolution in a vast population explosion. the mullahs keep screaming 'down with the usa' but the population (ESPECIALLY in tehran) is increasingly pro-west. i would guess that most mullahs are of the corrupt, self preserving variety than the overly religious, islamic jihad driven type. many iranians i know seem to have this opinion. the real religious types arent in tehran anyway, they seem to hang out in 'religious' cities like qom where they are surrounded by like minded angry young muslims. i sometimes read people here calling for nuking tehran, but thats wrong. tehran is the last place you would want to nuke in iran, because thats the pro-west heartland.
still, despite my beliefs here, who wants to take the risk? im all for bombing the reactors, but it needs to be done cleanly. we shouldnt risk the great asset that is the pro-western feeling among iranians.
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