SHIP-SINKING MONSTER WAVES REVEALED BY ESA SATELLITES

European Space Agency.<ul> ^ | 21 July 2004

[Yosemitest]

Sorry for the odd spaces in the article. It took a while to dress up this post.

I think this will answer some questions about "unexplained disappearances of ships" and I hope other freepers also find this "very interesting".

[uglybiker]

Sorry for the odd spaces in the article. It took a while to dress up this post.

Tell me about it.

[Keith in Iowa]

'Rogue waves' reported by mariners get scientific backing

			Posted by Rebelbase On News/Activism 07/23/2004 3:25:25 AM CDT with 16 comments yahoo news ^ | 7/21/04 | unknown PARIS (AFP) - European satellites have given confirmation to terrified mariners who describe seeing freak waves as tall as 10-storey buildings, the European Space Agency (ESA) said. "Rogue waves" have been the anecdotal cause behind scores of sinkings of vessels as large as container ships and supertankers over the past two decades. But evidence to support this has been sketchy, and many marine scientists have clung to statistical models that say monstrous deviations from the normal sea state only occur once every thousand years. Testing this promise, ESA tasked two of its Earth-scanning satellites, ERS-1 and ERS-2, to monitor the...
Ship-sinking monster waves revealed by ESA satellites
			Posted by uglybiker On News/Activism 07/23/2004 12:25:27 AM CDT with 42 comments European Space Agency ^ | 7/21/04 Rare photo of a rogue wave Ship-sinking monster waves revealed by ESA satellites 21 July 2004Once dismissed as a nautical myth, freakish ocean waves that rise as tall as ten-storey apartment blocks have been accepted as a leading cause of large ship sinkings. Results from ESA's ERS satellites helped establish the widespread existence of these 'rogue' waves and are now being used to study their origins.   Severe weather has sunk more than 200 supertankers and container ships exceeding 200 metres in length during the last two decades. Rogue waves are believed to be the major cause in many such...

[Truth666]

No reason anymore to cry surprise in case of the these waves visits Murmansk and Petropavlovsk soon ...

[Fresh Wind]

"We know some of the reasons for the rogue waves, but we do not know them all," Rosenthal concluded.

You know, but you aren't telling until the grant money runs out. It's GLOBAL WARMING!! Art Bell told me so.

[ijcr]

First it was hugh, then came series, and now we must add monstor to the Freeper lexicon.

[Jaysun]

Nessie? That you?

[SunkenCiv]

Many of these links may be dead by now, and last I knew the book was out of print by a mile:

Lanai Tsunami Deposit
by Volcano World

This is the deposit left by a giant tsunami as it washed up the south coast of Lana'i. The deposit consists of beach boulders plus coral fragments and sand, and extends to about 100 meters above sea level. Here it is about 4 meters thick.

The Hilina Slump a.k.a. "The Big Crack"
by Wiliam Corliss

A 4,760 cubic mile chunk of the Big Island (Hawaii) is breaking away at the rate of 4 inches per year. This is the Hilina Slump, and it is said to be "the most rapidly moving tract of ground on Earth for its size." The Hilina Slump can move much faster. At 4:48 AM, November 29, 1975, a 37-mile-wide section suddenly dropped 11* feet and slid seaward 26 feet. The result was a magnitude-7.2 quake and a 48-foot-high tsunami. This was a minor of the slump. If the entire 4,760-cubic-mile block decided to break off, it would probably create a magnitude-9 quake and a tsunami 1,000-feet high. All the coast-hugging cities of the Hawaiian Islands would be swept away. And LOOK OUT Australia, Japan, and California.

Japan faces tidal wave threat

Scientists in Japan have discovered a fault in the seabed off the country's coast with the potential to unleash a giant "tsunami" tidal wave. The newly-detected fault lies off the south-eastern coast of Japan and may have been responsible for the magnitude 8.1 earthquake which struck the country in 1944, they say... The fault is close enough to the Japanese coast for there to be only minutes between a substantial earthquake along it and the tsunami reaching land... Jin-Oh Park and his colleagues believe that the fault they have found may have been responsible not just for a magnitude 8.1 quake in 1944, but a nearby magnitude 8.3 quake two years later.

Giant Tsunami Would Follow Predicted Canary Isles Eruption

The computer model, compiled in collaboration with Steven Ward of the University of California, Santa Cruz, predicts that the tsunami will have a height of 100 metres (330ft) from crest to trough when it crashes into the shores of nearby north-west Africa. By the time it reached its final destination, the east coast of Florida and the Caribbean islands, the tsunami would still be up to 50 metres high.

The drowning wave
by Tristan Marshall

Any day now, a gargantuan wave could sweep westwards across the Atlantic towards the coast of North America. A mighty wall of water 50 metres high would hit the Caribbean islands, Florida and the rest of the eastern seaboard, surging up to 20 kilometres inland and engulfing everything in its path. If you thought the tsunamis that periodically terrorise the Pacific Ocean were big, consider this: the Atlantic wave will be five times bigger. It will start its journey 6000 kilometres away, when half an island crashes into the sea.

Landslide
by Jonathan Knight
7 August 1999

Everyone realised that dropping something the size of New York City into the ocean would kick up a big wave, but it was only when Moore returned to Hawaii to explore the island of Lanai that he realised just how big. On the south side of the island, limestone boulders were scattered, some as much as 100 metres above sea level. Since the island itself is made of volcanic rock, the limestone could only have come from coral reefs beneath the sea surface. Moore also found fields of coral and seashells as high as 120 metres. The piece of mountain that is shifting is much larger than the slide that soaked Lanai. It's more on the scale of the "Nuuanu" collapse that spun the New York-sized chunk of rock off Oahu more than 1 million years ago, says Julia Morgan, a geologist at the University of Hawaii's Manoa campus on Oahu, who has been watching the mountain closely.

Could sea slides occur off N.J. coast?

A computer simulation of the continental shelf 100 miles off the coast of New Jersey suggests that there may be pockets of water trapped under great pressure deep beneath the ocean floor. The study concluded that if such pressurized deposits of water exist, they could pose a threat of sudden undersea landslides. Peter B. Flemings and Brandon Dugan of Pennsylvania State University said even a small shaking of a mild earthquake could be enough for a sudden release of the water. That could cause undersea landslides down the side of the continental shelf. Such slides, involving many tons of sediment falling like an undersea avalanche down the side of a submerged mountain, have been known to cause tsunami waves.

Mt Pinatubo's brimming lake threatens thousands
by Joanna Marchant
25 July 01

This year has been particularly wet, and since the rainy season began in June the water level has been rising by up to a metre each week. The last time Rodolfo and Alonso flew over the lake in a military helicopter, they estimated that the water was only four metres from the lowest point of the crater wall, a V-shaped cleft called the Maraunot notch. Rodolfo and Alonso estimate that if the notch eroded down 10 metres, 30 million cubic metres of water would spill out. The water would probably mix with loose volcanic sediment on the way, hugely increasing its volume and creating a cement-like mixture knows as a "lahar". Rodolfo has seen fast-flowing lahars in action before. "It is a horrendous sight - horrifying and exceedingly beautiful." Engineering solutions to the threat include reinforcing the notch, or boring a tunnel into the crater to drain the lake. But the government says it is too late for such action now the rainy season has started. Rodolfo and Alonso believe this complacency could be disastrous and are now working with Oxfam to reach local agencies and people directly.

Asteroids and Tsunamis
by Michael Paine
5 November 1999

Tsunami can travel at around 400 mph in deep water. When they reach shallow water they slow down, and that's when the real danger begins. The front of the wave slows first and the effect is like a pile-up on a freeway, with the rear of the wave catching up to the front. The wave increases in height from this bunching effect. The final height of the wave depends on several factors, but the shape of the sea floor has the greatest impact.

Out There
by Louis A. Frank
and Patrick Huyghe

In the spring of 1986, I published my explanation of the black spots in a scientific journal: The Earth's atmosphere was being bombarded by house-sized, water-bearing objects traveling at 25,000 mph, one every three seconds or so. That's 20 a minute, 1,200 an hour, 28,800 a day, 864,000 a month and more than 10 million a year. These objects, which I call "small comets," disintegrate high above the Earth and deposit huge clouds of water vapor into the upper atmosphere. Over the history of this planet, the small comets may have dumped enough water to fill the oceans and may have even provided the organic ingredients necessary for life on Earth.

Scientists reacted to my announcement as if I had plowed through the sacred field of established science with a bulldozer. I had. If the small comets were real, one scientist commented, textbooks in a dozen sciences would have to be rewritten... I spent more than a year answering the objections of critics. But I didn't convince them. It was 10,000 to 1 -- actually 2, myself and John Sigwarth, whose task as my graduate student assistant had been to help me resolve this black-spot mystery. "We have taken a representative poll of current opinion in this field," an editor at Nature wrote in rejecting a small-comet paper we submitted to them in 1988, "and the verdict goes against you." It was my first encounter with taking polls as a way of doing science.

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The Big Splash: A Scientific Discovery That Revolutionizes the Way We View the Origin of Life, the Water We Drink, the Death of the Dinosaurs, the Creation of the Oceans, the Nature of the Cosmos, and the Very Future of the Earth Itself by Louis A. Frank and Patrick Huyghe

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[SunkenCiv]

Sorry, I forgot ya in the previous post/bump.

[sguthery]

Note that the pictures on the MaxWave site are of the parties not of the waves. European science at its best.

[Victor]

"....The same phenomenon could have sunk many less lucky vessels: two large ships sink every week on average,...."

Whoa....never heard THAT statistic before. Two ships a week??

Gives me pause about taking my next cruise LOL.

[LanPB01]

The waves are monstors of seriesly hugh proportions!

[RAY]

Wow!

[Vaduz]

I bet the crew isn't thinking very interstering but W.T.F.

[Mark in the Old South]

I am thinking of the Biblical prophecies in Revelations about the sinking of ships.

[RudeJude]

Bump!

[Jalapeno]

I think this will answer some questions about "unexplained disappearances of ships" ...

So, you're saying the aliens are causing these waves to happen. Make sense. ;->

[SunkenCiv]

:') Thanks for the "wow'. :'D

[expat_panama]

a 29-metre high rogue wave

There's some confusion about measuring waves.  Scientists measure wave height like circuit geeks measure signal amplitude - peak minus no wave level.   Reporters, surfers, and normal people look and a wave and think of the height as being from the top to the bottom -- makes sense but that can turn a '29-metre' wave into a '58-metre' wave.

It would have been good of them to clarify what they meant.

[boris]

"First it was hugh, then came series, and now we must add monstor to the Freeper lexicon."

I got one:

Remonstrate: to convert someone into a monster twice.

--Boris