Posted on 07/24/2004 8:56:51 PM PDT by justme346
Border Patrol field agents have shared some disturbing information with the hope the information will make it to the general public. A flood of middle-eastern males have been caught entering the country illegally east of Douglas, Arizona. In the last month at least two documented accounts of Border Patrol agents encountering large groups of non-Spanish speaking males in the Chiricahua foothills and on trails along the high mountain areas. On or about the early morning hours of June 13, 2004 Border patrol agents from the Wilcox station encountered a large group of suspected illegal border crossers, estimated to be around 100, just east of the Sanders Ranch near the foothills of the Chiricauha Mountains. 71 suspected illegal aliens were apprehended; among them were 53 males of middle-eastern decent. According to a Border Patrol field agent, the men were suspected to be Iranian or possibly Syrian nationals. "One thing's for sure, these guys didn't speak Spanish and after we questioned them harder we discovered they spoke poor English with a middle-eastern accent, then we caught them speaking to each other in Arabic this is ridiculous that we don't take this more seriously, and we're told not to say a thing to the media, but I have to," said the agent, whose name will obviously remain anonymous. The agent stated the men were wearing the traditional uniform of migrants - baseball caps, tennis shoes, some had work boots, denim jeans and many had t-shirts with patriotic American flags and slogans. The agent added the following description "A curious thing I noticed was that they all had brand new clothing and they looked as if they had just been to the barber shop, you know, new haircuts. They were clean cut and they all had almost the exact cut of mustaches." The information was corroborated by a local rancher in the area who reports that sightings of groups similar to these are on the rise. "We've had groups in the hundreds coming through again. They were gone for awhile but now they're back. Many other ranchers in the area have been frustrated with the lack of response from Border Patrol. After calling over and over again, to the Wilcox headquarters, we might get a response a few hours later. We call them in to the Border Patrol, we only have the Wilcox station, and they're so darned far away. By the time they send in the helicopters these groups are long gone. I don't know how many they catch but they're coming through here heavy right now." On or about the evening of June 21, 2004, agents from the Wilcox Border Patrol station apprehended 24 members of a larger group of Arabic speaking males located just east of the Pierce/Sunsites area of Cochise County. At least half of the males escaped capture and disappeared into the United States. http://www.tombstonetumbleweed.com |
Er...um...cause I know what the f*ck I'm talking about?
What would they say if our federal government decided to just let them go, eliminated their positions, thanked them for their work, and sent them off into the private sector? Would they be able to handle that?
Forgive me but wouldn't an agent be protected under whistle blower status? Why would he or she remain anonymous? If the story is true, I do not appreciate the half-assed attempt at bringing the story to light. What's more important to this supposed BP Agent? His Country or his job?
Whistleblower protection is a joke. Even bigger joke if a beaurocrat can remotely tie it to national security. If this guys name is identified, his job is in jeopardy.
Because hundreds of Syrians wouldn't last a second in Mexico before being asked what they are doing there... (if they had any clue how to get around in Mexico to begin with).
It only took 19 guys to destroy both WTC towers, attack the Pentagon, and kill a plane-load of people in a field in Pennsylvania. Let's say "only" 100 of them are here now, preparing for the next attack. That's 5x September 11.
Where is their money coming from? Do you know how much money it costs for 100 people to just live, travel, and train in the US for years without having jobs to support themselves so they were free to train (like with the 9/11 attackers)?
And if they're not close to any attacks here anytime soon, then why on earth did Tom Ridge recently remind us all to be alert, that they are hearing credible chatter, and that Al Q intends on hitting us here at home THIS YEAR, and specifically to interrupt our voting process? Was that just political, like the DemocRATS said, to deflect attention from Kerry choosing Edwards??
Yes. And more power to them. Whatever it takes to win so that we keep destroying Islamist terrorists and their networks, imho.
A lot of them are already leaving voluntarily -- fed up with seeing the job they try to do constantly marginalized and sabotaged by girlie-men politicians.
Good deal. Those are the ones I can respect. (Although I'm sure it has a lot to do with the private job market improving a lot lately and much more money to be made there. Which is understandable of them of course.)
fed up with seeing the job they try to do constantly marginalized and sabotaged by girlie-men politicians.
I have very little sympathy with people who choose to go work for the federal government and then bitch about it.
A lot of them are already leaving voluntarily -- fed up with seeing the job they try to do constantly marginalized and sabotaged by girlie-men politicians.
And most of the actual agents(boots on the ground types) are junior in grade and don't make enough to put up with the bull$hit.
AFTER the Republican convention, security slacks off. In the last three years, let's say 10,000 have actually slipped across the border. Loaded with cash, handlers have parked 10 man teams in latino and arab neighborhoods from Portland Maine to Portland Oregon with a 100 mile exclusion zone around NYC. The INS can't get anyone to talk to them here, and since no one else is looking for them, and with Clinton's leftover DAs providing cover thru inaction, with them busy trying to keep guns out of schools, and suing towns to allow gay marriage, these teams are safe. They are fed, housed and equipped by these minders, with women imported under threat of death to keep them happy.
Let's say, on Labor Day weekend, with everyone in the world on the road, they all hop in trucks and vans and head to Manhattan. Coordinated with cellphones, and loaded with purchased weapons and home cooked explosives, at 12 noon on Monday, they blow the bridges onto the island, the electrical towers as well, and all the tunnels except the Holland. Remember, no one is at work, so the working city is empty. The residents on the island are paying $5,000 per month for an apartment and can't afford a gun to protect themselves. They own the heart of the Great Satanic City for the greater glory of Allah. If it only lasts for 24 hours, that's enough. How many "zionists" could they kill? Is the 10th MN Div still at Ft. Drum? Is the 2nd Marine Div still at Camp Lejeune? There is no one to mount an counterattack for 10 days to two weeks.
Could it happen?
Can Kerry win the election?
Would Bush lose because of such a thing?
It's a whole new world, and we are still trying to fight the last war, with last century's morality...
Since your massive amount of intelligence on the matter is evident, allow me to offer that the 9/11 incident was planned for over 5 years. Given those details, If I were of a mind to establish a world-widw caliphate, which, by the way, is the stated goal of al-Qaeda, I would undertake several options. Most noteworthy, is the assimilation into the local population and focused efforts to alter the thought process of established residents.
Personally, I subscribe to a bit more of a tin-foil based probability. To wit: Last year, it was rumored in LE circles (I am a Police Officer) a plot that was referred to as "overkill". According to rumor, there were a several "kill teams" in some major cities. The plan was for the home invasion, totally at random, of homes in minority neighborhoods. Once there, everything is killed. Moms, Dads, kids, dogs, cats, birds fish, everything. The teams would hit 3 or 4 houses per city per night. The purpose was to alienate minorities by demonstrating that they weren't safe anywhere. That the government could not protect them.
now, if you extrapolate the impacts of the same MO in several major cities, the spectre of the DC sniper pales in comparison. The rumor has it that the FBI arrested one of the players in Cleveland who dropped dime on the whole program. There were several "LEO advisories" regarding potentials for home invasion.
But, I am certain that you will just issue some flip comment. It strikes me that you are of the opinion that our adversaries are somehow stupid or inept. That they would just rush across the border and do something. All that you demonstrate is that you have no concept of the nature of the threat that our country faces. Your handy little pithy remarks go far in establishing your bona fides as a true faux intellectual.
I recommend that you actually take the time to learn about our enemies. These are a people that feels the Crusades happened just last year. A people that won't move until they feel they have planned for all eventualities. The fact that their plans went sideways with Flight 93 just steels them to the focus to redouble thier planning efforts.
I have lived among these people for several years. I can assure you that your western mind cannot even begin to grasp the levels of hatred and their Machiavellian nature.
Now I am certain that you will say something slightly humorous that ends in some insult. But, that will only go towards proving my point.
Vaya con 'Dios, and Bon Chance.....
Semper Fi
Activists opposing Protect Arizona initiative
Protect Arizona Now is a "mean-spirited" initiative that would harm public health and safety, said Isabel Garcia, founder of Coalición de Derechos Humanos.
Alexis Mazón, an attorney representing opponents of the measure, disputed the study's findings.
Haha. Obviously.
Fwiw, there won't be any attack before the election. Even if they were capable of pulling it off currently (and they're not), they wouldn't do it in the US b/c the majority of Americans would go to GWB (who they already say they trust much more than Kerry on the terror issue) if that issue was suddenly pushed clearly to the forefront (as it was in Spain, where the majority hated Aznar (although until the attacks, they had dropped the Iraq issue further down the list and were willing to re-elect him on the good economy of theirs)).
If anything they will try to nuke an American base in Iraq or nuke Baghdad, since that is the one area they can affect where GWB is vulnerable. It is the only way I could see GWB losing at this point.
Good analogy. Something is going to happen. The logistic are yet to be seen. Texas Dawg is a refugee from DU and none of here on FR is going to educate him.
Not at all. I think many of them are absolutely brilliant, fwiw.
All that you demonstrate is that you have no concept of the nature of the threat that our country faces.
I do actually. That's why I support GWB so whole-heartedly.
Latino leaders: Our clout growing
The Associated Press
PHOENIX - The Hispanic community's political clout isn't proportional to the size of its population, but the nation's largest minority group is gradually gaining influence, several Latino leaders said yesterday.
Though politicians across the country are courting Hispanics, one of the Latino community's biggest political challenges is raising its voter turnout, said leaders at the National Council of La Raza's convention in Phoenix. The group is dedicated to promoting Latino issues.
Hispanic turnout is poor because of low voter interest, some Latinos aren't legal citizens and a significant portion of the community is too young to cast ballots, the leaders said.
"You have got immigrant groups that you are going to (have to) wait for the second generation, who always have a greater degree of participation than the first," said Alex Zermeno, board chairman for the Unity Council in Oakland, Calif.
Latinos, who vote at a lower percentage than other minority groups, should have a greater influence in many elections, said Adam J. Segal, director of the Hispanic Voter Project at Johns Hopkins University.
"The end result of this is that Hispanic voters have less true direct representation, and as a result their issues are not as focused on as they should be," Segal said from his office in Washington, D.C.
Though Hispanic political advances are happening at a slower pace than they should, Latinos are becoming more politically astute, even in places not thought of as bastions for Latinos, Segal said.
Latinos are gaining more influence across the nation, though the momentum is stronger in certain regions, said George Martinez, an official with the Oro Development Corp., a nonprofit agency in Oklahoma whose clients include migrant workers.
"The political clout in Oklahoma is not what we would like for it to be," Martinez said. "We are getting there slowly."
In a speech yesterday before the civil rights group, presumed Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry said Hispanics have values that made America strong. "You embody the American ideal," he said.
Ronnie Perez, a counselor from Phoenix, said he believes Hispanic clout is in line with the size of the country's Latino population, but that voter participation remains a big problem.
"(Hispanics) may not feel their vote makes a difference, and it's also that they may not feel that the issues that are currently being discussed are relevant to them," said Ruth Armendariz, recruiter for a bank.
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I'm 100% behind GWB, fwiw (which most definitely cannot be said about Tom Tancredo fans and many here at FR).
Semper Fi
I've never even been to DU.
I am 100% behind GWB. Numerous FReepers are not and loathe the man, including several regulars here.
I'm 100% behind GWB, fwiw (which most definitely cannot be said about Tom Tancredo fans and many here at FR).
Well TD, looks like you don't care much for us folks here on FR. Please go back to DU for all your information. GW will appreciate your vote though.
It's not just the junior agents -- a lot of the experienced "bush apes" are tossing it in.
There are about 800 agents here in Cochise County. They aren't just faceless green uniforms -- they're our friends and neighbors. They know they catch only about one in five, so that 905,000 they caught last year means about 3.6 million made it through safely. Your goobermint really doesn't want you to think about that, though...
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