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To: Mulder
The idea that business are exempt from recognizing individual rights, is ridiculous. As is the idea that ONLY the government must recognize those rights. Inalienable means NOBODY can separate you from the rights... and that those who would try are rightly considered criminals.

You do have a fundamental right to own any firearm you legitimately acquire, granted. You do not have a fundamental right to employment by any person or company who, for whatever reason, does not want you as an employee. If a company were to forbid firearm ownership by all employees and you decided that you'd rather work at that company than own a gun, you would have the right to make such a decision. In so doing, however, you would not be giving up your right to own a gun since you would remain free to, any time you decided you wanted a gun, submit your walking papers, go to an FFL, and buy one.

238 posted on 07/24/2004 9:20:53 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: supercat

"If a company were to forbid firearm ownership by all employees..."

then they are a corporation exceeding it's charter and in blatant violation of the law. Their right to function as a business, requires them to NOT violate the rights of their employees.

Perhaps you don't feel an employee has a right to self defense in a dark parking lot at night. The founders would disagree.
take these corporate criminals, and lockem up, and throw away the key.


240 posted on 07/24/2004 10:49:41 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: supercat; Mulder
You do have a fundamental right to own any firearm you legitimately acquire, granted. You do not have a fundamental right to employment by any person or company who, for whatever reason, does not want you as an employee. If a company were to forbid firearm ownership by all employees and you decided that you'd rather work at that company than own a gun, you would have the right to make such a decision.

This is totally lame. The Constitution does not guarantee the right only to OWN a firearm, it guarantees you the right to BEAR that arm.

What you suggest is that a "company" is more powerful than the very foundation on which this country was founded. They are not! This has been proved over and over in courts that employers cannot infringe upon free speech. This is a Second Amendement issue, NOT a corporate policy issue. The Second Amendment is found in the same Bill of Rights where you will find the First Amendment. Why would one Amendment apply and not the other?

What you suggest is that just because you work for a particular company, if that company has a policy of searching your house and taking things it thinks you shouldn't own, then it should have a right to do so. Even though the Constitution protects you from illegal search and siezure from the government, Or if the "company" has a policy that you have to be Wiccan to work there, even though your religious protections are guarded by the Consitution. What you propose is that those protections so enshrined to protect individuals from tyranny are not extended to companies who make up their own unConstitutional rules, and those protections end when you go to work for somebody who simply thinks you shouldn't have them.

241 posted on 07/24/2004 10:55:33 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama (www.cantheban.net --Can the "assault" weapons ban!)
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To: supercat
If a company were to forbid firearm ownership by all employees

Not only does a company NOT have that Right, they would be commiting a federal crime (deprivation of civil Rights) by doing so.

They have no more legal ability to ban their employees from having guns than they have to not pay social security taxes.

245 posted on 07/25/2004 6:59:00 AM PDT by Mulder (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should.-- Samuel Adams)
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