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Rush Limbaugh: What Papers Were Worth Berger Risking It All?
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 7/22/04 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 07/22/2004 7:18:54 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee
Today's Philadelphia Inquirer's editorial says that the partisanship in reaction to the Berger leak is "worse than what Berger did or is just as bad."

Oh yeah right! Just like the partisan reaction from democrats to anything a republican has ever done is worse right media?

The media is totally without shame now, with no morals, scruples, or credibility.

41 posted on 07/22/2004 11:08:15 PM PDT by ladyinred (What if the hokey pokey IS what it's all about?)
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To: Cicero
It will be spun away unless the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York indicts Berger. He might. This is apparently the guy who nailed Martha Stewart. If he indicts, then the media will have a VERY hard time ignoring it.

Think Martha Stewart, only this time, it's a conspiracy to obstruct a gov't investigation. Clarke and maybe others will be indicted as well as Berger. Maybe the Stewart case was a test drive on a new menthod of prosecuting white collar crime. And here I thought that the Stewart case was a waste of time and money.

42 posted on 07/22/2004 11:15:23 PM PDT by Eva
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To: wvromania

This could be a bombshell and bring down the whole house of cards for the Clintons.

I'm not holding my breath though .. my only hope is believing GOD's WORD when HE said, "everything hidden will be revealed". Maybe the "timing" of these revelations is GOD's way of protecting America.


43 posted on 07/22/2004 11:27:01 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: America is the Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth)
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To: Lester Moore

Well .. I sure hope having Kerry for president over your precious issues is worth it to you ..!!!

Bush is not perfect. To expect him to be perfect is totally unrealistic. But .. to say you'll withdraw your support because of YOUR OWN PETTY little issues is just plain stupid.


44 posted on 07/22/2004 11:32:14 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: America is the Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth)
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To: cincy29

"maybe the missing stuff isn't all that bad"

And .. you think a man would ruin his political career for "stuff" that "isn't all that bad" ..??

What I want to know is this: What information does Bill and Hillary have on Berger that would cause Berger to do something so stupid as stealing (and destroying) classified documents ..??


45 posted on 07/22/2004 11:36:28 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: America is the Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth)
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To: Lester Moore

Instead of interrupting this thread with an off topic, why not find a thread where this is being discussed ..??

Or .. why not start a thread and get people talking about the problem. Why not get people involved in protesting the Planned Parenthood facilities.

Wouldn't that serve your purpose better than whining about what the republicans are not doing to suit you.


46 posted on 07/22/2004 11:42:59 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: America is the Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

But .. Ashcroft had seen it and talked about it in his testimony before the 9/11 commission.


47 posted on 07/22/2004 11:45:01 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: America is the Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth)
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To: ChocChipCookie

Exactly! Which is just another example of the "projection technique" in action .. accuse your enemy of doing what you are actually doing. Works for me!!


48 posted on 07/22/2004 11:47:17 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: America is the Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth)
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To: Ed_in_NJ

The reason I've never believed it was our Navy was because Clinton hated the military so much that I figured he wouldl have loved to have made fools of them.


49 posted on 07/22/2004 11:49:56 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: America is the Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth)
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To: Cicero
It will be spun away unless the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York indicts Berger. He might.

What crimes did Berger commit in New York? The National Archives are in DC.

50 posted on 07/22/2004 11:59:57 PM PDT by TheMole
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To: wagglebee

What were these stolen TS CW documents about? Anyone know?


51 posted on 07/23/2004 12:13:48 AM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: wagglebee; ValerieUSA
it might've been the Democrats, knowing that Sandy Berger was in serious trouble, who leaked his problem so it wouldn't come up closer to the election. There is nothing in this report that the White House – which saw the report a long while before now -- would want to leak this to "cover up," as the Democrats charge. F. Lee Levin, our legal advisor here, went back and did some research last night into Clinton apologist / spinmeister Lanny Davis. In his book, Davis wrote: "When bad news is coming, get your version, an alternative story line, out first." Davis gives an example of some damning information about Clinton that they leaked to the Associated Press – which, by the way, was first to get the Berger leak. I'm not saying there was any connection or attaching any name to this. I'm just telling you this book was written by Davis.
I've seen it here on FR that Billary are sacrificing Berger, knowing he's going down anyway, in order to send a message to Kerry. This is plausible to some extent, and this Davis quote shows it could easily have unfolded that way. One way for Hillary to reach the White House is for Kerry to lose and GWB to not be able to run for a third term.

I don't think that's it, but it's worth noting.

52 posted on 07/23/2004 12:24:50 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: Lester Moore
If the Republicans fail on either issue I hope they lose Arizona by 1 damn vote, MINE!

Yes, electing Kerry would certainly show those Republicans who was in charge, wouldn't it? As frustrating as it is sometimes, the only thing worse that a government lead by ineffective Repubicans is one lead by effective democrats.

53 posted on 07/23/2004 12:41:33 AM PDT by TN4Liberty ("I did not have socks with that document....." S. Berger)
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To: CyberAnt
I agree. But if it was a foreign entity, the 'toons may have known but done nothing, not wanting to bother with it while 'they' were campaignung for re-election.

Note the distinct possibility that Hellary could be implicated by what Handy Sandy stole -- and the rats are 'all about' protecting her!

54 posted on 07/23/2004 3:54:53 AM PDT by Ed_in_NJ
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To: CyberAnt
And .. you think a man would ruin his political career for "stuff" that "isn't all that bad" ..??

People ruin their careers by having one drink too many. Some people are out of touch from reality. My point was that if this guy was covering his own ass, or Clinton's, he would need to be sneaking these docs into a U-Haul.
55 posted on 07/23/2004 5:54:26 AM PDT by cincy29
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To: All
Guys, Let me say again -- Even the Federal Gov is smart enough to make copies of "all" documents. Officials know exactly what was in those documents, and I believe are playing a cat-and-mouse game for other reasons.
There is lots more to this story that is not known by the press, or is not yet being reported.
I believe it was an effort to bring down Kerry by the Clinton's that went wrong. The current Administration knows the story, and has the RATS on the run.
56 posted on 07/23/2004 6:07:31 AM PDT by devane617
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To: Lester Moore

***I'm in Arizona which is a swing state and my vote will count. If the Republicans fail on either issue I hope they lose Arizona by 1 damn vote, MINE!***

Oh, real smart, Lester! You want to be THE man who defeats Bush and puts the commie-loving Kerry and his cohorts into the Oval Office.


57 posted on 07/23/2004 7:15:07 AM PDT by kitkat ("The democrats would rather win the WH than the war." - Tom DeLay))
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To: Ed_in_NJ

Yes, I agree. I think there was more going on than Berger just trying to protect x42; I think he was trying to get at the list of security boo-boos under his watch, as well as discarding bad things Bill and Hillary may have written on those documents.

Berger's loyalty is misguided. True loyalty stops at criminal activity.


58 posted on 07/23/2004 7:38:36 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: America is the Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth)
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To: thatcher
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59 posted on 07/23/2004 11:27:11 PM PDT by Bea Elysian (Paradise is always where love dwells.)
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To: Diogenesis

"It was Berger whose calls Bill Clinton ducked in 1998 when bin Laden was briefly vulnerable to missile attack."

Predators were not armed until 2001, so it would have had to have been a cruise missle strike, taking a few hours. Not that they should not have tried it anyway, just that it was not a case of bin Laden sitting under the crosshairs.


60 posted on 07/25/2004 11:36:24 AM PDT by RS (Just because they're out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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