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Bush or Kerry? In Baghdad, political passions run high
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | 7/23/2004 | Annia Ciezadlo

Posted on 07/22/2004 6:48:12 PM PDT by wjersey

BAGHDAD – Call them Baghdad Dads: If America's presidential election were held tomorrow, on Iraqi soil, working-class Iraqis would be the crucial swing vote. "The Democratic party is just a party of slogans: they only call for freedom," says Muath Karra, an eyeglass salesman. "But George W. Bush, he is brave, and he is a man of action. I hope he wins this election, because he is a genius - and brave."

Muhammed Shammari, a taxi driver, is a Kerry man. "We want John Kerry to win, because George W. Bush brought harm to America and all the world under the pretext of launching the war on terror," he says. "And generally, the Democratic Party is better than Republicans."

Thousands of miles from Boston and New York, the American horse race plays out in Iraqi terms: strongmen and wimps, doers and talkers, rulers and technocrats. Kerry has the advantage: He didn't invade their country, which counts for a lot. But while Bush is generally hated, his tough-guy image plays well on the street. "John Kerry has a good heart; he was against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan," says Haidar Abdullah, a young electrician. "But the truth is, I'm a George W. Bush supporter."

Bush has a fierce cadre of devoted followers, mainly among Shiites and Kurds who suffered under Saddam Hussein. They are the silent minority.

Abbas (not his real name) is one of them. Every morning as he's leaving the house he pauses by the door. "I put my faith in God," he says, according to Muslim tradition. Then he takes a little picture of George W. Bush out of his wallet, and kisses it.

"And then I put the picture of George W. Bush back in my wallet, so it will be like a prayer," says Abbas, a video store owner.

"I made a vow: that whoever saved me from Saddam, I will kiss him every morning," says Abbas, his craggy face cracking into a grin. "So believe me, I kiss George Bush every morning."

Abbas may be in the distinct minority, but he represents an invaluable group: They'd be sure to vote, because they believe the future of their country is at stake.

"If George W. Bush loses the presidency, Iraq will lose freedom," says Abbas. "If John Kerry wins, he will withdraw the American Army. He will let the terrorists come in and do lots of things that will make Iraq less safe."

Two months ago, independent Iraqi pollster Sadoun Dulame asked 3,075 Iraqis from all over the country which US candidate they preferred. Most Iraqis scorned the question, but about 15 percent responded passionately - almost all Bush backers.

"When we asked this 15 percent why they cared, they said, 'Because the American election will affect conditions in Iraq,' " says Mr. Dulame, director of the Iraqi Center for Research and Strategic Studies. "They prefer that Bush stay. Because if Bush leaves, maybe the Democrats will adopt a new policy, and not pay so much attention to Iraq."

In a perfect reversal of US demographics, the Bush lovers tended to be more educated and clustered in cosmopolitan areas. Call them Red Iraqis. "Most of them were intellectuals," says Dulame. "US intellectuals, maybe most of them adopt Democratic values. But in Iraq, that's the reality."

While the urban elite may favor Bush, most average Iraqis are more like Ali Najem Maarouf. "Kerry said he would pull back the US Army, and this is a very good thing," says Mr. Maarouf, a street peddler. "We wish the day will come when we don't see these pigs in our streets."

There's an Arabic phrase - haki fadi, or "empty talk" - that is often used to sum up politicians' pronouncements. In Arab countries, where speeches are long and democracy is short, citizens are skeptical of promises. Most Iraqis believe Bush failed to keep his promises.

"After the war, for a short period, I supported Bush," says Mohammed Ali, a computer technician who follows US politics closely. "But after he failed to keep his promises, I stopped."

"They are both losers, and Iraq is the scapegoat," fumes Athir Kadhim, the young owner of a bag store. "We can't judge the promises of this man or that - we can only tell if he kept his word. Bush did nothing."

Faiza Abbas, a young housewife from Sadr City, Baghdad's Shiite slum, has no kind words for Bush. "When you come out of your house, you see Americans. When children go to school, they see Americans," she explodes. "Everywhere a woman wants to go, she has to be searched by American soldiers - can we accept that in Iraq?"

Dulame suspects public opinion is tipping toward Kerry, even among the educated. Their hopes of an interim government of technocrats (read: Democrats) were dashed when a CIA-linked strongman came to power.

Maybe the Fahrenheit 9/11 factor is at work. Michael Moore's translated "Stupid White Men" grins out from most bookstalls in Beirut and Jordan. His books aren't as ubiquitous in Baghdad, but bootleg copies of F9/11 are sold in the souks.

Musa Hussein and Saeed Mia, sitting in a watch-repair shop one afternoon, discuss the movie. "It's a good social satire, " says Mr. Hussein, who is pro-Kerry. "They are criticizing Bush, saying he is the biggest enemy of America."

Mr. Mia, a Bush fan, started to watch the movie. But his electricity cut out after three minutes. "I prefer that George W. Bush would win, because he served the world 100 percent," he says. "And I am the first who will vote for him."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: iraq; iraqipeople; iraqivote; pollsoniraq

1 posted on 07/22/2004 6:48:14 PM PDT by wjersey
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To: wjersey

In a perfect reversal of US demographics, the Bush lovers tended to be more educated and clustered in cosmopolitan areas.

so american bush supporters are stupid hicks?? gee thanks christian science guys.

would iraqis throw flip flops at kerry?? (evidently throwing sandals at people is a huge insult in that part of the world, as we all remeber when they tore down saddams statue)


2 posted on 07/22/2004 6:56:23 PM PDT by goldwaterlives
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To: wjersey; ohioWfan; Mo1; mystery-ak; DrDeb; Grampa Dave

This should be handed out at the Dem Convention :-)


3 posted on 07/22/2004 6:57:24 PM PDT by MJY1288 ("KERRY" & "EDWARDS" ARE TWO "JOHNS" THAT NEED FLUSHING!)
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To: wjersey
But George W. Bush, he is brave, and he is a man of action. I hope he wins this election, because he is a genius - and brave.

Now, there's something you don't hear too often. Dan Rather will certainly want to interview this fellow.

4 posted on 07/22/2004 6:59:49 PM PDT by Prince Caspian (Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
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To: rintense; Howlin; Miss Marple
"I made a vow: that whoever saved me from Saddam, I will kiss him every morning," says Abbas, his craggy face cracking into a grin. "So believe me, I kiss George Bush every morning."

A Daily Doser?

5 posted on 07/22/2004 7:10:43 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: wjersey

So many Iraqis are obtuse and myopic.


6 posted on 07/22/2004 7:16:24 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Leftists don't acknowledge that Reagan won the cold war because they rooted for the other side.)
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To: wjersey
Maybe the Fahrenheit 9/11 factor is at work. Michael Moore's translated "Stupid White Men" grins out from most bookstalls in Beirut and Jordan. His books aren't as ubiquitous in Baghdad, but bootleg copies of F9/11 are sold in the souks.

"Stupid White Men"... #1 on the Islamist Terrorists Times Bestseller List!

7 posted on 07/22/2004 7:17:56 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: wjersey

Amusing spin of "terrorists would vote for Kerry".


8 posted on 07/22/2004 7:29:18 PM PDT by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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To: wjersey
Bush has a fierce cadre of devoted followers, mainly among Shiites and Kurds who suffered under Saddam Hussein. They are the silent minority.

ROTFLMCO! Minority? The Shiia are 60% of the population and the Kurds are 20%. That means that 80% of the Iraqi population supports Bush!

9 posted on 07/22/2004 7:44:37 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: wjersey

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm . . . did the author of this article ever leave Bagdad?! [The author notes that Bush support is strong among Kurds and Shiites . . . don't these two groups represent the MAJORITY of Iraqis?!]


10 posted on 07/22/2004 7:50:24 PM PDT by DrDeb
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To: wjersey

These reporters definately need to get out of Baghdad and see the country.


11 posted on 07/22/2004 8:01:04 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: McGavin999
They are the silent minority.

I noticed that spin too.

I doubt this guy left the more comfortable parts of Baghdad, which is Sunni. He has one Shia woman complaining about searches.

The reality of the "Iraq" reporting is 98% of it is confined to Baghdad and some hostile Sunni towns.

When's the last time you read a report from Basra or the Kurd areas?

12 posted on 07/22/2004 8:08:00 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: MJY1288
Wonder if those Kerry supporters realize that they'd be butchered for speaking out if it weren't for George W. Bush?

I LOVE the freedom to be stupid. :o)

13 posted on 07/22/2004 8:20:16 PM PDT by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: wjersey

"If George W. Bush loses the presidency, Iraq will lose freedom," says Abbas. "If John Kerry wins, he will withdraw the American Army. He will let the terrorists come in and do lots of things that will make Iraq less safe."

Smart man.


14 posted on 07/22/2004 8:20:20 PM PDT by AfghanIraqVeteran (IYAAYAS)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
HEY! I resent that!

(There's not a craggy face among us. ;o)

15 posted on 07/22/2004 8:21:20 PM PDT by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: goldwaterlives
"so american bush supporters are stupid hicks?? gee thanks christian science guys. "

I believe this guy's comment in the article is wrong. In actuality, most Republicans/Conservatives are college educated. I know that Rush has always stated that as statistical fact.

16 posted on 07/22/2004 8:22:44 PM PDT by mass55th (We are The Knights Who Say "Ni!" No! Not The Knights Who Say "Ni!" The same!)
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To: wjersey

In a perfect reversal of US demographics, the Bush lovers tended to be more educated and clustered in cosmopolitan areas. Call them Red Iraqis. "Most of them were intellectuals," says Dulame. "US intellectuals, maybe most of them adopt Democratic values. But in Iraq, that's the reality."

Having a degree from a liberal college doesn't make you intellectual. If anything, I think they have the definitions reversed. An intellectual can think on his own, a brainwashed robot from any of our Universities doesn't fit the definition.


17 posted on 07/22/2004 8:24:00 PM PDT by AfghanIraqVeteran (IYAAYAS)
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To: wjersey
"Kerry said he would pull back the US Army, and this is a very good thing," says Mr. Maarouf, a street peddler. "We wish the day will come when we don't see these pigs in our streets."

Sounds like a typical Kerry supporter all right.

18 posted on 07/22/2004 9:52:59 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Do Chernobyl restaurants serve Curied chicken?)
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