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To: presidio9
In our urgency to depose the Bushies, do we risk becoming just a little too much like the villains onscreen?

You're so far gone that you're looking up the slippery slope from the base and instead believe you're looking down from the top.

2 posted on 07/22/2004 12:45:07 PM PDT by dirtboy (Forget Berger's socks - has ANYONE searched his skin folds for classified documents?)
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To: dirtboy; Registered
Bush supporters this year doctored an old photo of John Kerry to make it appear he was seated next to Jane Fonda at a Vietnam war protest. Then they e-mailed the photo to millions of voters. That's not just misleading. That's 1984 stuff. In the hands of rulers, such tactics are the route to fascism. The Bushies have attacked our constitutional freedoms in the name of protecting us.

Man Reg, I didn't know you had that kind of power! :)

NFP

11 posted on 07/22/2004 12:48:29 PM PDT by Notforprophet (Democrats have stood their own arguments on their heads so often that they now stand for nothing)
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To: dirtboy

I have a few problems with these statements.

1) He doesn't pull all-nighters like Bill Clinton.
2) Bush supporters this year doctored an old photo of John Kerry to make it appear he was seated next to Jane Fonda at a Vietnam war protest.
3) The Bushies have attacked our constitutional freedoms in the name of protecting us
4) Moore, meanwhile, didn't fabricate anything. His facts were on the money, as a review of the film's assertions by The New York Times ' Philip Shenon, who covered the 9/11 commission, bore out.
5) Still, that's different from lying or killing or brutalizing innocent populations. Outsiders' agitprop--filmmaking that goes over the line--is not the same as OK'ing the torture of prisoners at Abu Ghraib.
6) He shows a patriotic, conservative mom who wrestles with the evil that led to her son's death in uniform in Iraq

1) Yeah, but Bill clinton was pulling all-nighters with interns, not heads of state!
(Hehe hehe, he said "Head")

2) Uhm, I saw a photo with Kerry, and Fonda was in the background - I never saw a "doctored" photo, and didn't hear anything about a photo being altered, until this article.

3) How did the Bushes attack our constitutional freedoms? This is just a statement, and we're to accept it as fact? I don't think so - back it up with proof, ya know, something like "Bush sequested an Army division in my house without approval, and let the CIA search my house and home without a warrant"! I mean, jiminy crickets, Batman, this guy is loony!

4) WHAT?? You yourself stated early that Moore's claim Bush was on vacation 42% of the time was wrong - and that's just the tip of the iceberg. Check the bible, call your pastor/preacher/church leader, and ask them - they'll tell you: A lie of omission is STILL A LIE. Moore OMITTED facts and generally misled the viewing public.

5) Where is the proof President Bush PERSONALLY OKAYED the humiliation of the prisoners at Abu Ghraib? There is none. (And let's call it what it is, it's not torture, noone is deformed, permanently scarred from what went on there - at least to my limited knowledge)

6) I had no idea Saddam Hussein is in this movie. That's the EVIL that led to this woman's sons death. Let's remember that little FACT, shall we?


24 posted on 07/22/2004 12:59:14 PM PDT by Ro_Thunder (Sarcasm? That's humor lost on anyone but yourself.)
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