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Missourians split on Kerry, Bush
The Kansas City Star ^ | July 22, 2004 | STEVE KRASKE

Posted on 07/22/2004 12:09:08 PM PDT by COURAGE







Posted on Thu, Jul. 22, 2004


Missourians split on Kerry, Bush
Poll shows race within error margin

The Kansas City Star

Missouri, considered the best presidential bellwether state in the nation, is torn between Sen. John Kerry and President Bush, a new poll shows.

With just more than three months to go before the November election, the statewide survey found Kerry leading Bush 46 percent to 44 percent. But the poll's 4-point margin of error suggests the race remains a virtual tie.

Conducted for The Kansas City Star and KMBC-TV by Market Research Institute of Mission, the poll found that just 1 percent of respondents favored third-party contender Ralph Nader. Nine percent were undecided.

“You're looking at almost a dead heat,” said Stephen Caliendo, a political scientist at Avila University in Kansas City. “I think that Missouri is probably very similar at this point in time to other swing states, in that it is so closely divided.”

Caliendo said he was surprised that only 9 percent of respondents were undecided. That figure, he said, was far lower than at this point in other elections.

“A lot of folks appear to be saying they've got their minds made up early,” he said. “I'm not sure when the last time was that we've seen that.”

Conducted July 13 through Tuesday, the poll surveyed 600 Missourians. Asked their party affiliations, 36 percent said they were Democrats, 32 percent said they were Republicans while 28 percent identified themselves as independents.

Of the remaining 4 percent, half said they were affiliated with another party while the remaining 2 percent said they didn't know their party affiliation.

The survey might slightly under-represent the number of Republicans, considering the party affiliations of those who voted in the 2000 presidential election. An MSNBC exit poll of Missouri that year determined that 39 percent of the state's voters were Democrats, 38 percent were Republican and 23 percent were independent.

Those figures were roughly similar to another 2000 exit poll that Voter News Service conducted for The Associated Press.

Asked about which candidate would do a better job of handling a series of issues, Missourians picked Kerry on protecting the middle class, improving health care, keeping America prosperous, improving education, holding down federal spending, strengthening Social Security and creating jobs.

Bush scored higher when it came to “sharing your values,” holding the line on taxes, safeguarding the United States from terrorists and handling the situation in Iraq.

Several of the issues — keeping the nation prosperous, sharing your values and holding down federal spending — were decided by a point or two, which suggested that neither candidate held a clear lead.

Poll respondents named different reasons for backing Bush and Kerry. Gary Cramer, a retired truck driver from Cabool, Mo., said the senator from Massachusetts was the lesser of two evils.

“I'm coming down anti-Bush,” he said. “I don't like Bush's economic policies. In fact, I don't like any of his policies at all. I don't like the way he's handling the war in Iraq or any of it.”

Bill Ainsworth, a disabled veteran from St. Louis, said the war with Iraq had pushed him toward Kerry.

“I'm tired of going nowhere except the war,” Ainsworth said. “We should be making friends in the world, not enemies. It seems like a lot of lives could have been saved and a lot of good could've been done with the money.”

But two other Missourians said they were sticking with Bush.

“He's got the experience,” said James Adams, a retired international consultant from Forsyth. “You don't change horses in the middle of a stream. We need to get out of Iraq, and he has plans for doing that.”

Larry Giovanni, an SBC Communications manager from St. Louis, said he'll vote for Bush even though he didn't think the president had been particularly effective.

“I certainly don't cherish the thought of Mr. Kerry running our country for four years,” Giovanni said. “I think he's not in the mainstream at all where most Americans are.”

Spokesmen for the two campaigns said they were pleased with the results.

“I think it's very clear that John Kerry's vision for an America that's stronger at home and respected around the world is catching on in Missouri,” said Michael Golden, Kerry's Missouri communications director.

The spokesman for Bush, Danny Diaz, said the Bush team had always thought Missouri would be hotly contested. He pointed out that this week the president and Vice President Dick Cheney had been campaigning in the state.

“This is a Republican state,” Diaz said. “We expect to carry its 11 electoral votes. We will not be outworked in Missouri.”

For months, Missouri has been the focus of intense campaign attention. Kerry and Bush have visited the state numerous times, and Kansas City and St. Louis rank as two of the top targets for television advertising by both camps.

The state has voted for the presidential winner in every election since 1900 except one. In 1956, Missourians picked Adlai Stevenson over incumbent President Dwight Eisenhower. No other state has been that accurate.

The survey also asked respondents about Cheney and Kerry's running mate, Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina. Cheney was viewed favorably by 39 percent and unfavorably by 41 percent, while 20 percent had no opinion.

Edwards was seen favorably by 51 percent and unfavorably by 20 percent, while 29 percent said they did not know.

Looking back at the disputed 2000 presidential election, 49 percent of Missouri respondents said the election had been correctly decided while 43 percent said the election had not been. Nine percent were undecided.

Asked to name the most serious international problem facing the country, 34 percent said terrorism, 26 percent said Iraq and 20 percent said the world economy and jobs.

On national issues, 31 percent cited health care as the most serious concern and 23 percent said the national economy and jobs. Eleven percent said education was the top issue, and another 11 percent identified homeland security.

Other questions:

• Asked which best described how they feel about the direction of the country, 45 percent said “worried,” 32 percent said “optimistic,” 12 percent said “angry” and 8 percent said “satisfied.” Three percent said they were unsure.

• Asked if their family was better off financially now or a year ago, 47 percent said the situation was the same, while 26 percent said they were better off and an identical 26 percent said they were worse off. Two percent were unsure.

• 60 percent said the economy was either very or fairly good while 39 percent said it was fairly or very bad. Two percent were unsure.

To reach Steve Kraske, political correspondent, call (816) 234-4312 or send e-mail to skraske@kcstar.com.




© 2004 Kansas City Star and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved.
http://www.kansascity.com



TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Missouri; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: bush; cheney; edwards; kerry; missouri
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To: COURAGE

Mermaid, go back to DU already.


21 posted on 07/22/2004 12:44:14 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: COURAGE

Fiscal leftism follows social leftism. You can't create a Thelma and Louise climate in a state without the Democrats coming, sooner or later, to claim it.

Live, learn, get right with dads, and try to go conservative again. Most singles vote Democrat, while most marrieds vote Republican.


22 posted on 07/22/2004 12:46:08 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons.)
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To: COURAGE

"I hope Rove have something up his sleeves,"

If he does, its probably a cyanide capsule so he's not captured alive.

I think Rove has been an unmitigated disater, that he has manoevered Bush into positions on various issues like illegal aliens, gun control and campaign reform which were neither in Bush's nor the nation's best interest, and his campaing assistance thus far has generated a very poor showing.

He could be pulling his punches, waiting for the last minute to hit Kerry with a series of Zingers but knowing the Dems, they are doing the same thing - and still fighting now, but the Repubs are apparently just holding down the fort.


23 posted on 07/22/2004 12:47:55 PM PDT by ZULU
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To: COURAGE
"...because this Bush campaign is one or the worst I've seen.

Naw.

You want worse? Think 1992.

24 posted on 07/22/2004 12:56:18 PM PDT by LincolnLover ("The Wheel Has Turned. It is Time for Them to Go.")
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To: Coop
Again - I'll wager a dime that if GWB loses MO he loses in NOV - (money talks) - outside of that we are all rather just giving our opinions on here -

As for money - You are forgetting 527's - when they are added in GWB will lose the money race by over $150 million - Again, facts matter. - That doesn't mean GWB will lose....but it does mean we can not sit back with a false premise that we have more money then Kerry - we do not. (as of today that is).

25 posted on 07/22/2004 1:30:08 PM PDT by POA2
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To: Jokelahoma

I quit taking the KC Star five years ago do to its hard left slant. The President will win Missouri by five or six points. BUSH 2004!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


27 posted on 07/22/2004 2:47:49 PM PDT by Bombard
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To: LincolnLover

Dole was worst, but this may break them both if it continues.


28 posted on 07/22/2004 3:13:47 PM PDT by COURAGE (A charter member of the Grim FReeper Club)
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To: POA2
Again - I'll wager a dime that if GWB loses MO he loses in NOV - (money talks) - outside of that we are all rather just giving our opinions on here -

I'd love to wager with you, because I play the odds. However, your meager attempt to try to back up your weak claims does not relate to our discussion. If you can come up with a way to prove in November that Bush cannot [nobody has used the words "will" or "will not"- it's all about the realm of what's possible] win without MO, then by all means I'll put up some money.

I'd be happy to watch you tap dance. :-)

29 posted on 07/22/2004 3:53:46 PM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: crusherandbruiser

I'd love for you to back up your claim that Rove yanked money out of FL, WI, etc.


30 posted on 07/22/2004 3:54:47 PM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: crusherandbruiser

I'd love for you to back up your claim that Rove yanked money out of FL, WI, etc.


31 posted on 07/22/2004 3:54:53 PM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Coop
I'd love to wager with you, because I play the odds. However, your meager attempt to try to back up your weak claims does not relate to our discussion. If you can come up with a way to prove in November that Bush cannot [nobody has used the words "will" or "will not"- it's all about the realm of what's possible] win without MO, then by all means I'll put up some money.

Now Coop - I am the one who said originally....that if you were just playing the advocate (to Courage) for the purpose of playing the advocate....that was one thing - But if you were seriously trying to suggest that GWB will win without MO - that is complete different thing - (and I made that point clear) -

So again, I will make the statement - if GWB does not win MO he will not win in NOV - All those who are following the this race with the least bit of intellectually honest will say as much - If MO were to go Kerry - well then whatever "winds" that would cause Missourians to push toward a Kerry Presidency (and away from GWB) would most likely (almost certainly) cause a shift throughout the Midwest as well - (again, simple history tells us this - in fact Dales as a whole segment on this within his site) -

Courage was never suggesting "mathematically" it was impossible for GWB to win without MO - he was just trying to have an intellectually honest discussion without have to give an * at the end of each statement -

And his words ring by far more accurate then yours -

Courage says - GWB needs MO if he plans to win in NOV -

Coop you say - GWB does not need MO and he'll still win in NOV -

If GWB doesn't carry MO - he won't win - Now there is nothing wrong with acknowledging this fact - that doesn't make one a pessimist ....

32 posted on 07/22/2004 4:43:20 PM PDT by POA2
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To: crusherandbruiser

You know, the WORST about the Bush campaign failing is not the possibility that Kerry will be the next president, direful as that may be.

No, the WORST part will be the cries from the Republican left - the McCains, the Tom Keans, the Chrissie Whitmans, the Olympia Snowes, the Lincoln Chafees, the Rudy Giulianis, etc. that a conservative agenda will not sell to the American public and that , nect time, they should nominate a Democrat Light - like one of them - somebody who approves of baby-killing, opposes school vouchers, dosen't support the Second Amendment, supports Judicial activism, opposes the death penalty, supports bi-lingualism, supports open borders, opposes tax cuts, supports atheization of the American way of life, opposes school vouchers, and wants to cuddle up to the U.N., the Frogs and the other degenerate Europeans.

THAT'S the WORST consequence of a Republican defeat in 2004.


33 posted on 07/22/2004 7:20:27 PM PDT by ZULU
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To: POA2
Again, you've completely missed the point. I did not say "will."

COURAGE: but Bush must take Mo.

Coop: No, he mustn't.

See? It's really quite simple. Bush does not need MO to win. Will I be worried as heck if he loses MO on Election Night? You bet. But I'm just weary of all these "Bush has to win [xxxx] or he loses the election!" proclamations. OH has been the favorite "terminal" state this year, followed by FL. So at least now we've got some variety with MO. And then we have a lot of folks giving us the "must win two of these three" - usually FL and the Midwest states.

Maybe I'll start posting "Kerry must win Rhode Island!" everywhere.

Meanwhile I'm looking at the electoral map from 2000 and today, looking at polling numbers, fundraising, etc. President Bush has many more options than John F'in Kerry does.

34 posted on 07/23/2004 3:59:17 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Coop
Coop - you are flat out just being anti-common sense - No one has ever claimed "mathematically" GWB must win MO or FL to win in NOV -

But for anyone willing to be intellectually honest - the case is clear...if GWB were to fail to win MO or FL the likely hood of him winning is about zero -

The SAME could be said for Kerry - if Kerry loses NY,CA or PA - the likely hood of him winning is Zero! -

Now that isn't being pessimistic...that is being a realist -

For you to have suggested on another post that GWB doesn't need FL - it is just too silly -

35 posted on 07/23/2004 10:59:07 AM PDT by POA2
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To: POA2
if GWB were to fail to win MO or FL the likely hood of him winning is about zero -

That's just wrong.

36 posted on 07/23/2004 11:15:44 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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