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Environment ranks high among Californians' concerns, poll finds
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 7/22/04 | Terence Chea - AP

Posted on 07/22/2004 8:37:25 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 07/22/2004 8:37:26 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: california; *calgov2002


2 posted on 07/22/2004 8:37:49 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Godspeed x40 ... Support Our Troops!!! ......Become a FR Monthly Donor ...)
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To: NormsRevenge

it always seems like "city idiots" who have NO IDEA what is really happening with the "environement" are the ones who complain the most...suggestions:

1) move out of the city
2) learn to hunt, trap, fish
3) quit whining.

Oh never mind. these types dont even have enough balls to even try the above.
The Capt.


3 posted on 07/22/2004 8:42:07 AM PDT by Capt.YankeeMike (get outta my pocket, outta my car, and outta the schools)
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To: NormsRevenge

FRom the Mercury News (excerpted)

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/9213545.htm

Schwarzenegger tops Bush in survey on environment

KEEPING DISTANCE FROM PRESIDENT MAY BE ADVANTAGE

By Paul Rogers

Mercury News


Californians have turned increasingly negative toward President Bush's handling of environmental issues, and give higher marks to Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, a fellow Republican, according to a new poll released today.

Overall, 53 percent of California residents said they disapprove of the president's views on the environment, with just 32 percent saying they approve. Only half as many Californians, 27 percent, say they disapprove of Schwarzenegger's handling of environmental issues, while 39 percent approve.

The poll by the Public Policy Institute of California, a non-partisan research center in San Francisco, surveyed 2,505 California residents by telephone between June 30 and July 14. With interviews conducted in five languages, it is among the largest statewide environmental surveys ever.

``Californians are looking to the state for environmental leadership,'' said Mark Baldassare, research director for the institute.

``It will be interesting to see how Arnold Schwarzenegger handles differences he might have with the White House. Our findings suggest the more he leans toward support of the president, the more support he will lose from independents and Democrats who are now viewing him favorably.''

Bush has clashed with California leaders on a number of environmental topics in recent years, including offshore oil drilling, increased logging in the Sierra Nevada, global warming and air pollution.


4 posted on 07/22/2004 8:48:07 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Godspeed x40 ... Support Our Troops!!! ......Become a FR Monthly Donor ...)
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Conservatives are incredibly stupid if we don't learn how to grab this issue.
5 posted on 07/22/2004 9:24:25 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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Worried about air pollution and related health problems, most Californians want lawmakers to make protecting the environment a top priority, even if it hinders economic growth, according to a poll released Thursday.

If economic growth is hindered, then there won't be the $$$ available for "clean air" technology.

6 posted on 07/22/2004 9:28:55 AM PDT by .38sw
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The poll, which surveyed 2,505 residents in five languages, found that 54 percent of likely voters believe the environment should be a top policy priority, even at the expense of the economy.

Fine. We'll just send all those nasty, polluting, "jobs" to Arizona or India. Then you can enjoy your pristine environment while you sleep in your car (which will make a fine condo, since we don't want you running it anyway).

I'd love to hear how this question was phrased. Probably along the lines of, "Would you like more environmental regulation even at the expense of economic growth, or are you an idiot?"

7 posted on 07/22/2004 9:41:19 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: NormsRevenge

Arnold is flirtting with becoming a 'girlie man' on this one himself if he caves to the enviro groups. What then?


8 posted on 07/22/2004 9:43:32 AM PDT by familyofman (and the first animal is jettisoned - legs furiously pumping)
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most Californians want lawmakers to make protecting the environment a top priority, even if it hinders economic growth, according to a poll released Thursday.

I agree with that position but it's all a matter of degree.

9 posted on 07/22/2004 9:46:35 AM PDT by biblewonk (WELL I SPEAK LOUD, AND I CARRY A BIGGER STICK...AND I USE IT TOO.)
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The majority of Californians are the most brainwashed people in these United States. If there are bigger clods and oafs they are in hiding. These are cavemen who know how to turn on the electric light. They are perfecting Lenin's "useful idiot."

They are incapable of realizing free market approaches to the environment, which is why the majority favor the environment over economic growth. They are the perfect candidates for a soviet socialist republic. We may one day need to send in the Marines to clean out this Marxist hellhole.


10 posted on 07/22/2004 9:53:02 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Gen. Custer wore an Arrowsmith shirt to his last property owner convention.)
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If they choose, they could move to someplace where there isn't a house or freeway every ten feet.


11 posted on 07/22/2004 12:24:46 PM PDT by ampat
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By all means, save the scrub-brush and undergrowth, don't thin any forest, don't build any fire-break roads, nah don't do any of those things!

Burn Baby Burn!

12 posted on 07/22/2004 12:28:14 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
13 posted on 07/22/2004 2:34:47 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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BTTT!!!!!!


14 posted on 07/22/2004 2:49:20 PM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: sergeantdave
They are incapable of realizing free market approaches to the environment, which is why the majority favor the environment over economic growth.

That's been true of people I've met in California, Oregon, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, and Washington. It's been true of acquaintances nationwide, even people who should know better.

15 posted on 07/22/2004 3:32:51 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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The majority of Californians are the most brainwashed people in these United States. If there are bigger clods and oafs they are in hiding

Too bad the majority of Calfornians are from out of state, from places like Michigan.

Aren't you from Michigan?

16 posted on 07/22/2004 3:41:15 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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The fault rests with conservatives who've allowed the Democrats to take over the environment by default. Unless we can show how we can take better care of it with free market approaches, we'll stand no chance of attaining a majority on the Left Coast.


17 posted on 07/22/2004 5:45:03 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Unless we can show how we can take better care of it with free market approaches, we'll stand no chance of attaining a majority on the Left Coast.

You know that. I know that. I tell them that. They just sit there wishing they could go back to 1957 with their brains in park.

18 posted on 07/22/2004 5:50:52 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Yes, Joe, your perception is amazing - I'm from Michigan.

We here in Michigan haven't yet set up a soviet socialist republic, where unelected bureaucrats tell you whether you can or cannot cut a tree on your property. Here in Michigan we can cut a tree without crawling to some bureaucrat and begging his permission. And we don't set aside millions of acres for fairy shrimp. Nor do we set up fascist "no growth" zones. So the situation in California was not imported from Michigan, Joe.

When the citizens in California elect a Republican state house, a Republican state Senate and a Republican judiciary, you'll have made some progress in California. Let me know when that happens.

BTW, our governor is an import from the lovely city of Berkeley. She was elected by massive voter fraud. If you want her back, you can have her. I'll even pay the postage. :-)


19 posted on 07/22/2004 6:38:01 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Gen. Custer wore an Arrowsmith shirt to his last property owner convention.)
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Your governor is from Ontario, if I'm not mistaken. Which is east of Detroit when you cross over into Windsor. ;-)


20 posted on 07/22/2004 6:43:50 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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