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To: tahiti
Sorry but I'm not buying your argument. Guns on planes? One shot through a window and that plane is gone. And, what's to stop some terrorist from bringing a gun on board?

Made the cockpits stronger, train these guys on how to use a gun, put Marshals on the planes, have airlines start paying for their own armed security and passengers should keep their seatbelts fastened cuz when the trouble starts, that pilot is going to drop altitude real fast and plaster anyone standing to the ceiling....
28 posted on 07/22/2004 7:54:46 AM PDT by misterrob
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To: misterrob

One shot through a window and that plane is gone? That's a myth. You should watch "Mythbusters" on the Discovery Channel. They pressurized a cockpit and fired a bullet through the side of it. It just made a little hole and that was all. Same thing for the window.

As for the story of Northwest Flight 327, check out this blog for a skeptical response:

http://www.donaldsensing.com/2004/07/casing-northwest-327-threat-or-hoax.html

Also read the follow-up posts and all the comments. A friend of mine is an airline pilot and a 757 instructor. He said he could poke some serious holes in the Flight 327 story, although he didn't say what they were. I was skeptical about the flight attendant discussing the air marshals with a passenger.


35 posted on 07/22/2004 8:19:51 AM PDT by Tarantulas
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To: misterrob
One shot through a window and that plane is gone.

If that was the case, then how do you explain all the bombers from WW2 that seemed to be turned into smth close to swiss cheese and STILL made it home safe ?

37 posted on 07/22/2004 8:23:24 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Many a law, many a commandment have I broken, but my word never.)
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To: misterrob

Try watching mythbusters sometime. They proved that a bullet hole will do nothing to a plane and that it takes a big hole to do major damage to one. The bullet hole will not cause "catastrophic decompression".


48 posted on 07/22/2004 8:59:19 AM PDT by scab4faa ("While you're here, you're a Horse's Ass, once you're gone, you're a Hero, I have never been a hero.)
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To: misterrob
One shot through a window and that plane is gone. And, what's to stop some terrorist from bringing a gun on board?

I'm sure you'll get other replies about this, but that only happens in movies. Kinda like every car that has a fender-bender in movies erupts in a huge fireball. It's a liberal fantasy.

Arming every passenger who would like to be is the only sure way to stop hijackings from happening.

53 posted on 07/22/2004 9:25:50 AM PDT by zeugma (The Great Experiment is over.)
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To: misterrob; zeugma
Have you ever paid attention to the little presentation the flight attendant gives at the beginning of each and every US flight? The one where she demonstrates how to put on the oxygen mask "in the event of loss of cabin pressure"?

Loss of cabin pressure, as in what would happen if there were hole(s) in the airplane. We've planned ahead for holes in the plane for the past 40 years.

So go ahead boys, empty the magazine into those tangos and don't worry about little holes.

55 posted on 07/22/2004 9:33:10 AM PDT by Sender (Jihad is an excuse for avoiding the task of making Islamic society work.)
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To: misterrob
"One shot through a window and that plane is gone"

The facts do not support such a contention.

You may recall the United Airlines 747 that lost it's cargo door right behind the cockpit at 30,000 and 550 miles an hour.

It landed safely.

Your emotionally charged innuendo does not comport with aircraft engineering and survivability.

59 posted on 07/22/2004 9:49:53 AM PDT by tahiti
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To: misterrob
Sorry but I'm not buying your argument. Guns on planes? One shot through a window and that plane is gone.

RIGHT! Why, if there's even the slightest little hole in a plane, it blows right up!

I know, because I saw it in a Bruce Willis film!

66 posted on 07/22/2004 10:03:03 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: misterrob
One shot through a window and that plane is gone

Overstated. The explosive decompression stuff you see is hollywierd special effects.

Remember a bomb went off in a 747 cargo compartment and blew out the side just ahead of the wing root. Only the passengers immediately adjacent to the blowout and an unrestrained flight attendant were extracted from the aircraft, the passengers still strapped in their seats.

In another unrelated case, the cargo doors of DC 10s had a nasty habit of blowing open in flight. It did bring one plane down but another survived while the entire rear deck structure sagged but didn't give way.

Finally, remember the Aloha Airlines 737 that popped its top? Some people died when extracted but the plane made a safe landing.

A bullet in the window or fuselage will just make an annoying whistle.

89 posted on 07/22/2004 10:48:50 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: misterrob

>>One shot through a window and that plane is gone<<

Try knocking out seven windows, that's when the air masks will fall out for you.

You are terrified of guns and believe me it shows.


115 posted on 07/22/2004 1:01:49 PM PDT by B4Ranch (We're going to take things away from you (guns) on behalf of the common good." Hillary 6/29/2004)
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To: misterrob
One shot through a window and that plane is gone.

The danger of explosive decompression from a gunshot is wildly overstated. One shot is not going to bring down an airline.

163 posted on 07/23/2004 12:39:35 PM PDT by MediaMole (Microsoft math: 1 inch = 2.4 centimeters)
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