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To: PigRigger

Holy writings are subject to interpretation on many levels. Those that choose to take it literally are veiling themselves to the world that exists and evolves around us today. I have read the Koran and am aware that there are some violent passages, however, the Bible itself contains harsh messages too. Also, if we are speaking in terms of mass injustices done in the name of God by whichever religious group, what about the Inquisition? What about crimes on the micro rather than macro level....such as molesting young children when in a position of trust and empowerment, and supposedly, with God on your side?
I am sure there were even some Muslims killed in the towers, and the same goes for Jews, Christians, Atheists, Agnostics, Presbyterians, Lutherans, Hindus and Buddhists, plus many more. What we had in common was not our god but the fact that we are all Americans. If you are going to condemn MILITANT muslims (the adjective was not included in the post I responded to, which is why I asked for specification), then condemn militant Christians as well--I notice you chose not to respond to my mention of the bombing of abortion clinics.
The judgements you make about the terroristic situation permeating our every thought, newscast, publication, etc. should not be reflective of your beliefs as a Christian, but as an American. If all you can do is pit your "pure" religion against this "dark" and "evil" one, then you are being as egotistical and militant as they are. The fight is between us, not Gods. Let them carry on with their Allah junk...it's a facade I don't care to carry instead of facing the fight as an American, regardless of who I pray to at night.

Thanks for the welcome.


79 posted on 09/20/2004 7:09:31 PM PDT by Sarah622
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To: Sarah622
"I have read the Koran and am aware that there are some violent passages, however, the Bible itself contains harsh messages too..."

Nowhere in the New Testament of the Bible does it direct a follower of Christ to slay unbelievers. In fact, it states the greatest love one can show another person is to give up their life for another.

This stands in complete contrast to what is found in the Koran.

Those that kill in the name of God and call themselves Christian cannot justify their actions anywhere within the New Testament. However, those that kill in the name of their god and call themselves Muslim can point to a multitude of dictates in the Koran. There is no moral equivalency no matter how much you wish to believe it.

That is the problem the Islamic world must deal with it if it wishes to avoid all out war with the west. The world of Christendom was able to undertake a reformation and rid itself of the blood-thirst that took it over. Luther and company were able to do this because the New Testament CLEARLY demonstrated that the leaders of the Church were no longer following true Christian doctrine. Islam is in dire need of a reformation. The problem is that those who wish to reform it will be very hard pressed to point out where the fundamentalists are not following true doctrine.

You may wish to ignore the fact that over 90% of the military conflicts on the face of the earth involve believers of Islam; tens of millions have been slaughtered in Islams name; and the Middle East is dominated by Islamic governments abating and supporting terrorism. Yes, you can ignore it but I won't; the religion plays a large role in why we fight today. Islam conflicts with the western ideals of freedom and equality; the very values that I cherish most.

I harbor no ill feeling toward people of peace regardless of the religion they choose to embrace. However, we are seeing a rise in Islamic fascism that is unparalleled in human history; even Nazi Germany takes a back seat to this form barbarism and brutality. To ignore its rise, to ignore the root cause and the violence it motivates, is to be irresponsible and naive.

We are at war with a culture inspired by Islam. I see it as a form or evil incarnated. You may not, that's your decision.

As stated previously; I hold no animosity against those who wish to live in peace. I welcome them by my side in the war against this evil form of fascism. Unfortunately, I don't see many standing to join the fight - their silence is deafening.

If the form of Islam you follow supports freedom of religion and its practice; freedom of speech; the separation of government and religious institutions; total equality among races; and total equality among the sexes than you have no argument with me. Unfortunately, for the average follower of Islam, that is the exception, not the norm.
80 posted on 09/21/2004 4:52:24 AM PDT by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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