Frankly, I have no need to justify myself to the Klinton Kool-Aid Brigade.
Posted on 07/20/2004 5:44:29 PM PDT by kristinn
And they claim we're questioning their patriotism?
Rick Pearlstein from the Village Voice? Isn't that a blue-zone sodomite marxist rag?
The Voice is the main NYC weekly alternative freebie paper. It has a large circulation, but mainly because it's the best source in town for apartment listings and concert ads.
Leftists love to psychoanalyze conservatives. It gives them the same kind of satisfaction that a cannibal gets when he eats his enemies brain.
This article just brought a tear to my eye *snif*
From the article "I don't mention recent poll figures suggesting that more Americans believe John Kerry than Bush when it comes to terrorism."
Um, was that poll perhaps only in the Village Voice, or whatever they call their rag?
Bush said this in which State of the Union address?
Frankly, I have no need to justify myself to the Klinton Kool-Aid Brigade.
Why? Let them go on preaching this stuff to the left. It helps us if they all don't have a clue.
Why? Let them go on preaching this stuff to the left. It helps us if they all don't have a clue.
Mighty brave of them, anyone of their readers could just type that into Google, clik on the first link, and find themselves exposed to... something completely different.
A perfect example of how you can't recognize yourself when the media gets done with you.
I like how he talks about the intellectuals at the second party he went to. First, he was talking to a very intelligent, well spoken publicist (amazing, a conservative can be smart) and then he decided he wasn't getting anywhere with her, so he picked on the old lady in the corner. I believe that is the same technique Michael Moore used when ambushing Heston when he was in the midst of Alzheimer's. Class act.
The more I read about the "criticism of the Left", the more I'm convinced that they've lost more than a few brain cells along the path of life. They have to learn to duck more.
There are so many half-truths in this "article", it needs to be read for accuracy - and it would flunk.
I believe George W. is a sincere person and you just can't beat it.
When they protest against their ideological enemies, they're exercising their freedom of speech. When we do it, it's labeled "harassment".
Well, duh. Since they make the AIDS's drugs I would imagine that would be the case.
Pardon me, if I don't believe Rick Pearlstein...
(These are notes taken by Rick Pearlstein) or so he claims...
July 15, 2004
Seymour Hersh
Excerpted text from Hersh's address at ACLU Conference. These are notes taken by Rick Pearlstein, and copied from Brad De Long's Journal.
Seymour Hersh spoke... at the University of Chicago.... I took some scattered notes. The remaks will be disjoined--as will be the notes--but chilling. He asserted several things that he says he didn't have nailed down enough to write, but that he was confident of....
He then turned to the 40th president, referring obliquely to 138 names, then began to list them, saying those with long memories will catch on: they were the Reagan administration figures accused, indicted, or convicted of wrongdoing....
He talked about Carl Levin (though he didn't use his name) telling him about high officials lying to him in closed hearings, and how frustrating it was to be lied to, in classified settings, when the liars know the senators know they are lying. Levin said he'd never seen such brazenness in Washington....
He waits after the My Lai story broke mid November 1969, one week, two weeks--then, by Thanksgiving 1969, other correspondents finally write about the atrocities THEY had seen in Vietnam: an outpouring that made him feel strange that it took little old him, the police reporter who had flunked out of law school, 11 years after winning his B.A. in English, to unleash this outpouring of truth....
From My Lai, the transition to the current scandals was seemless. He connected the dots, and spoke of the CIA secret prisons we haven't heard about yet: "We're basically in the disappearing business." He made the first of several criticisms of our humble profession: "there's no learning curve in America. There's no learning curve in the press corps."...
Unsurprisingly, he flagged the extraordinary importance of the WSJ memo revealing the government's plans to torture, including its assertion that it's not against the law if the president approves it,and mocked the New York Times headline "9 Militias Are Said to Approve a Deal to Disband," suggesting in its stead, "Bush Administration Offers Hoax in Hopes of Convincing U.S. There's Some Peace."His assessment of the postwar settlement: "It's going to come down to who has the biggest militia will win."...
Then a story from one of his intelligence sources, whom Hersh says didn't find it an unflattering story: some time in 1986 or 1987, Reagan was given a long chart presentation of what actually happened with Iran/Contra and began sleeping five minutes in to it, then snoring on Nancy's shoulder. After twenty minutes it was over, the helicopter was fired up for the Friday trip to Camp David, Nancy aroused him, he awoke with a start, glanced at the charts, and asked, "What's that." Sy said something like "That's MY Ronald Reagan."...
"NATO's falling apart in Afghanistan now."
And this was one of the most stunning parts. He had just returned from Europe, and he said high officials, even foreign ministers, who used to only talk to him off the record or give him backchannel messages, were speaking on the record that the next time the U.S. comes to them with intelligence, they'll simply have no reason to believe it.... He lamented of his journalistic colleagues, "I don't know whey they don't just tell it like it is."...
He said the people most horrified by the way the war was planned were the military commanders responsible for protecting their troops.... He talked about the horror of the 1000 civilian deaths in Fallujah (but was careful to note the Marines were doing their job, placing the blame with their superiors)....
He talked about how hard it is to get the truth out in Republican Washington: "If you agree with the neocons you're a genius. If you disagree you're a traitor." Bush, he said, was closing ranks, purging anyone who wasn't 100% with him. Said Tenet has a child in bad health, has heart problems, and seemed to find him generally a decent guy under unimaginable pressure, and that people told him that Tenet feared a heart attack if he had to take one more grilling from Cheney. "When these guys memoirs come out, it will shock all of us."...
He said that after he broke Abu Ghraib people are coming out of the woodwork to tell him this stuff. He said he had seen all the Abu Ghraib pictures. He said, "You haven't begun to see evil..." then trailed off. He said, "horrible things done to children of women prisoners, as the cameras run."
He looked frightened.
Transcript of Hersh's description of the video is in the extended section...
"...Debating about it, ummm ... Some of the worst things that happened you don't know about, okay? Videos, um, there are women there. Some of you may have read that they were passing letters out, communications out to their men. This is at Abu Ghraib ... The women were passing messages out saying 'Please come and kill me, because of what's happened' and basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst above all of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror. It's going to come out.
It's impossible to say to yourself how did we get there? Who are we? Who are these people that sent us there? When I did My Lai I was very troubled like anybody in his right mind would be about what happened. I ended up in something I wrote saying in the end I said that the people who did the killing were as much victims as the people they killed because of the scars they had, I can tell you some of the personal stories by some of the people who were in these units witnessed this. I can also tell you written complaints were made to the highest officers and so we're dealing with a enormous massive amount of criminal wrongdoing that was covered up at the highest command out there and higher, and we have to get to it and we will. We will. You know there's enough out there, they can't (Applause). .... So it's going to be an interesting election year...."
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