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Fallout Continues Over Clinton Aide's Handling of Secret Memos
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Posted on 07/20/2004 1:46:33 PM PDT by bikepacker67

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To: Paleo Conservative
What a bonehead traitor Gergen is

Can you imagine someone having the honor of working for President Reagan, seeing greatness up close, and then deciding to join the Clintonistas instead? What the hell happened in this idiot's life that he decided socialism, weakness and evil were the way to go instead of enterprise, defense and morality?

41 posted on 07/20/2004 3:30:11 PM PDT by Defiant (Moore-On: That throbbing anticipation felt by a liberal hoping for America's defeat.)
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To: Defiant
Berger Top Ten (Reasons for Pilfering National Security Documents)

10. Was absent on day Clinton held Document Handling 101 class at local Hooters

9. After two weeks on Jenny Craig, socks wouldn’t stay up, and neither would pants

8. Street guy taught him trick to staying warm

9. Craig Livingston said it was OK

7. Hillary asked him to

6. Marine guarding files had his back turned

5. Ran out of firewood at home, and it was a cold day

4. Kerry had been in Aspen and wanted a briefing

3. Joe Wilson didn’t actually have any documents and felt left out

2. The media would bury the story

1. With Jamie Gorelick already on the Commission stealing them wouldn’t matter


42 posted on 07/20/2004 3:33:55 PM PDT by CT (Oppose Left Wing Anti-American 'Hatriotsim)
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To: bikepacker67
The Times should have put quotes around the statement that starts with the word "inadvertently".

IMHO, it would be a good idea to use ellipses in the extracted article to indicate that the "inadvertently" paragraph is actually the fourteenth paragraph in the article, instead of the second paragraph (as it appears here).

43 posted on 07/20/2004 3:34:18 PM PDT by Zeppo
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To: Zeppo

I meant "excerpted", not "extracted".


44 posted on 07/20/2004 3:35:30 PM PDT by Zeppo
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To: Defiant

He was a Humphrey DemocRAT before he took a job in the Nixon Administration. Looks like he's returning to his roots.


45 posted on 07/20/2004 4:11:06 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: mombonn

And Hillary was a former first lady of an impeached president and a paper shredder. This stuff with Berger isn't surprising considering that Hillary got by with shredding documents and both Clintons lied about everything.


46 posted on 07/20/2004 4:44:55 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: chainsaw

So Solly -- Blain Lock-


47 posted on 07/20/2004 4:48:18 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: bikepacker67

Sandy Berger just came out with a statement, per Fox News.

He says he made an honest mistake which he deeply regrets.

He is a LITTLE nervous! His voice was cracking. I didn't get it all but it was really short. Reminded me of the "clinton years".


48 posted on 07/20/2004 4:53:01 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
Rush...

"David Gergen, a former advisor to both Democrat and Republican presidents vouched for Samuel [Burglar] on the Today Show today." He called him "a hero on the war on terror, a man of utter integrity, saying that this is suspicious that this would leak just before the release of the 9/11 commission's report." He said it's "not even clear to Burglar that this investigation is still underway and no charges have been brought against him." When NBC's Katie Couric followed up and asked Gergen if he was suggesting this story might be coming out now as a distraction. Gergen said, "Well, it has those overtones. Let's let more facts come out." Gergen said he doesn't think the Berger story reflects on Senator Kerry. He did say, however, that what would hurt the Kerry campaign would be if Sandy Burglar would have to withdraw from his role as an advisor to the Kerry campaign.

So it's the timing of the leak now. It's not the "nature of the evidence." It's not "the seriousness of the charge." Now we've got a third element in all this: it's the timing of the leak that we must really look at here. Don't you love these people, how they instantly shift the goalposts? When it's us that they're looking at, the nature of the evidence doesn't matter; it's the seriousness of the charge. Now we've got a pretty serious charge, "That's nothing. That's nothing." The seriousness of the charge is nothing! It's the timing of the leak. (Laughing.) Pretty soon we're going to hear there's "no controlling legal authority" here. I'm sorry to laugh at this, but you have to. You just have to. I mean, it is serious stuff, and I'm not through with the serious explanation of all this. (Laughing.) The timing of the leak. I mean, David Gergen would know. He served with numerous presidents. He's known to speak off the record with numerous reporters, but what about the "timing"? Since they want to focus on the timing of this so-called leak, let's look at the timing. Would it have been preferable that the leak occur later? Or, since we're talking the timing now, would they have preferred the leak occur later or would they have preferred the leak earlier? And when there's a criminal investigation of a high profile person like Sandy Berger, it's rarely kept secret.

More...

49 posted on 07/20/2004 4:54:13 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: bikepacker67
Bergers action clearly affected the work of the Commission. This commission is supposed to come up with guidelines and determinations to improve the intelligence gathering capabilities of our country. These capabilities affect the abilities that terrorists organizations have to commit furthur significant attacks on our country. At the very least Bergers actions have increased the abilities that terrorists organizations have to commit further attacks. He needs to be charged and fully investigated. If Berger seriously weakened the findings of this commission, just to improve the Democratic Parties political chances in the current election, he has committed one of the worse crimes ever committed against the United States of America.

Why was President Clinton's testimony before this commission not made public ?

50 posted on 07/21/2004 4:35:31 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: CT

How 'bout this #1: "Because I could."


51 posted on 07/21/2004 10:03:27 AM PDT by Nevermore
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To: bikepacker67
Backgrounder:

I sent an angry email to public@NYTimes.com yesterday.

I received back the following email:

Dear Ms. (Republican Red):

I can understand your reaction. The Berger story was badly underplayed, but not out of any evil intent. The news broke very late last night, and editors rushed just a few paragraphs into the paper -- all they had at the time.

I can assure you that we will be following this news much more fully in tomorrow's paper and thereafter.

Thanks for writing, and for holding us to a high standard.

Best, Bill Borders, senior editor, The New York Times.


Then this morning I received this email from Mr. Borders:

Dear Ms. (Republican Red) The following article may interest you:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/21/politics/campaign/21berger.html

Sincerely,
Arthur Bovino
Office of the Public Editor


I, Ms. Republican Red, wrote back a scathing letter damning the NY Times article. I listed at least 6 inadvertent mistakes in their article.

I just received another reply from Mr. Borders:

Dear Ms.(Republican Red),

Perhaps you overlooked the following graphs:

Mr. Berger also put in his jacket and pants pockets handwritten notes that he had made during his review of the documents, Mr. Breuer said.


I emailed him back that even CNN has three Justice Dept. sources saying that Berger stuffed classified documents into his socks. The NY Time inadvertly left out the socks part.

Waiting for the next reply
52 posted on 07/21/2004 10:17:03 AM PDT by Republican Red (Is that a classified document in your pants Sandy or are you just glad to see me?)
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To: Republican Red
Keep up the good work and keep us posted!

My view of all this:

_____________________________________________________________________________________

Are we having Fun yet?????

I vote for this being the Official picture of this Escapade of SOXGATE!

53 posted on 07/21/2004 11:08:16 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (New Linux SUSE Pro 9.1 user here.)
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To: Republican Red

"I sent an angry email to public@NYTimes.com yesterday."

Good job! Don't these slimy liberal journalists just make you want to scream? I can't wait for the day when we take these bastards down.


54 posted on 07/24/2004 1:31:17 PM PDT by rj45mis
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To: bikepacker67

Snafu?


55 posted on 07/24/2004 1:33:36 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: bikepacker67

Incredible. The man has been out of office for four years and he continues to have scandals.


56 posted on 07/24/2004 1:33:45 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion have been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: bikepacker67

"INADVERTANTLY? "

The New York Times must believe their subsribers are all idiots.


57 posted on 07/24/2004 1:35:33 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion have been born. Ronald Reagan)
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