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CNN: Colleagues defend Berger in documents probe (deny, deny, deny Sock story!!!)
cnnsi ^ | 20-july | cnn-si

Posted on 07/20/2004 12:03:14 PM PDT by epluribus_2

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In a statement issued late Monday, Berger said the removal of those papers was unintentional. But law enforcement sources told CNN that some of the papers he is said to have taken from the National Archives were stuffed into his socks as well as other parts of his clothing.

That allegation drew sharp responses from two of Berger's associates. President Clinton's former spokesman, Joe Lockhart, said Berger "categorically denies that he ever took documents and stuffed them in his socks.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: denial; sandyberger; trousergate
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To: BunnySlippers

Exactly. And, aren't there cameras in such a sensitve area?


41 posted on 07/20/2004 12:18:26 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: DB
If there is proof he put anything from that room into his socks, there is no way he'll be able to say it was "unintentional".

Hey, I'm not making excuses for him, I pointing out how he's trying to weasel out of the accusation.

42 posted on 07/20/2004 12:20:28 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor (John Edwards: Qualifications? we don' need no steenkin' qualifications!)
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To: Admin Moderator

Wow. I feel for you guys. FR is buzzing like I have never seen on a lazy summer day. Too many burglar threads.

The VOLUME of FR traffic tells me this story has legs....


43 posted on 07/20/2004 12:20:34 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: babaloo
He was "compartmentalizing" the notes...
44 posted on 07/20/2004 12:20:54 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: babaloo

It doesn't matter if he stuffed 'em up his CLYMER, it's forbidden. Call him BOHICA Burger today.


45 posted on 07/20/2004 12:20:58 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: epluribus_2
President Clinton's former spokesman, Joe Lockhart, said Berger "categorically denies that he ever took documents and stuffed them in his socks.

It's quite simple really. He stuffed the documents into one sock. At no point were documents in his socks.

46 posted on 07/20/2004 12:21:04 PM PDT by laredo44 (Liberty is not the problem)
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To: petercooper

If Sandy had taken my suggestion to wear cowboy boots like this, he could have smuggled out TWICE as many documents!"

47 posted on 07/20/2004 12:21:06 PM PDT by EllaMinnow (Re-elect Bush - because Kerry just doesn't have the time.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

"This is all about sex. Everybody does it ... Nothing to see ... Let's move on."

Are you suggesting that Berger stuffed his pants with his socks?


48 posted on 07/20/2004 12:22:10 PM PDT by Rebelbase (To democrats the truth is personal.)
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To: epluribus_2
Maybe they floated the "socks" angle to cover up for the pant's pocket and briefcase - i.e. story should be dismissed since (out)Fox(ed) and Rush lost their minds crowing about socks.

Following these Berger threads, I get the impression that CNN floated the "socks" story well ahead of Fox, then squashed it after Fox and Rush picked it up.

Your theory makes sense: notice that Lanny Davis' comments focus entirely on denying that Berger stuffed docs in his socks, not on taking the documents themselves.

Since where Bergler stuffed them is now a point of deniability for the Dems, I'll bet the Feds do have a tape.

49 posted on 07/20/2004 12:22:33 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: epluribus_2

CNN's John King, Kelli Arena, Bob Franken and Pam Benson contributed to this report.

CNN's got four reporters working on the Berger spin. They're in full panic mode.

50 posted on 07/20/2004 12:22:33 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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To: keat

rofl


51 posted on 07/20/2004 12:22:35 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: BunnySlippers
What I wanna know is "isn't anyone checking them when they leave the archives?"

All they need do is sign a statement indicating they didn't intentionally take anything.

However, the document doesn't ask them whether they accidentally took anything.

52 posted on 07/20/2004 12:22:52 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Right Wing Professor

Easy. Just look for the phrase "categorically denies" and look for what isn't being denied, which is usually a lot.

In this case the analysis was unusually easy, because the press reports were unusually clear. Documents are big things that would not fit inside socks.

But it is also illegal to carry out notes, even those you write yourself while in the building. I suspect the notes prohibition gets violated pretty often. I used to watch the Rockford Files, and Rockford was always slipping away with illicit notes.

There is really a Catch 22 embedden in all this. If any part of this was accidental, it says that a man clinton trusted with national security is a total incompetent boob, and now Kerry is getting advice from him.


53 posted on 07/20/2004 12:23:24 PM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
I guess you do have to read what these guys say very carefully!!

From the Fox article:
Berger and his lawyer said Monday night he knowingly removed the handwritten notes by placing them in his jacket, pants and socks, and also inadvertently took copies of actual classified documents in a leather portfolio.

From CNN:
President Clinton's former spokesman, Joe Lockhart, said Berger "categorically denies that he ever took documents and stuffed them in his socks.

So, he only put his handwritten notes in his socks, not the official documents, those went "inadvetently" into the jacket, briefcase pants.

There's nothing here sheeple, move on...

54 posted on 07/20/2004 12:23:26 PM PDT by handy (Leahy you, you Clymer!)
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To: Right Wing Professor

Exactly! You have to parse this with a de-Clintonizer.


55 posted on 07/20/2004 12:23:31 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Mr. Lucky
Maybe those were rolled-up documents stuffed in the front of his pants...

Are you carrying documents for Sandy Berger or are you just glad to see me?

56 posted on 07/20/2004 12:23:33 PM PDT by laredo44 (Liberty is not the problem)
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To: keat

There is a guy on 970 WFLA playing off your pic right now!

His name is Todd Schnitt. Go to this link and listen live.

http://www.970wfla.com/


57 posted on 07/20/2004 12:23:39 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: bikepacker67
Today's spin words of the day: Sloppy. Careless.

In other words, he never should have been caught.

58 posted on 07/20/2004 12:23:43 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: keat

ROTFLMAO!


59 posted on 07/20/2004 12:24:27 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Shermy

"Very interesting. One FReeper suggests that the leak was by Berger himself - notice that his lawyer was talking with the first reporter of the story.
Theory - the 9/11 commission report was going to comment on Berger. That would have created a firestorm that would detract from the presumably anti-Bush aspects of the report. So Berger came out first, his story will die out under the attention of the other matters in the report."

Hmmm, I'm trying to extrapolate from the premise of this scenario--if that happened, did Gorelick tip Berger?


60 posted on 07/20/2004 12:24:31 PM PDT by Fedora (Kerryman, Kerryman, does whatever a ketchup can/Spins a lie, any size, catches wives just like flies)
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