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To: OXENinFLA
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Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
and
The Constitution is not a suicide pact.
there has to be a better outcome than what this judge found.
38 posted on 07/20/2004 5:14:06 AM PDT by Fixit (CafeShops.com/Dubya2004)
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To: Fixit
"The Constitution is not a suicide pact."

This one always cracks me up. Let's think about this for all of half a second: a group of farmers, lawyers, and businessmen get together and sign an open declaration of treason against the most powerful empire the world has ever seen, which controls the most powerful military the world has ever seen, and whose penalty for treason is death, but yet the Constitution is not a suicide pact. I understand that you didn't coin the term, and I don't blame you, but the mentality that the Constitution is anything but a suicide pact is so completely, laughably absurd that it actually scares me to have seen the SCOTUS tell us it honestly believes that's the case. If one stood in 1770 and looked ahead to the signing of the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution without understanding the reasons why these documents were written and signed, one would have likely seen the founding fathers as suicidal idiots. The last thing most could have imagined prior to the end of hostilities (in ~1814) would be that this group of militia would be able to take on the Crown's army and live to tell the tale.

Yet the Constitution is seen today as being somehow not a suicide pact. That's just so... sad.
86 posted on 07/20/2004 8:18:55 AM PDT by NJ_gent (Conservatism begins at home. Security begins at the border. Please, someone, secure our borders.)
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