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Is al Qaeda Preparing a Nuclear Hit?
Global Analysis ^ | July 19, 2004 | JR Nyquist

Posted on 07/19/2004 7:30:11 PM PDT by thinkahead

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To: ladyjane
Simply put, the country is not ready to accept such measures. The country is not convinced that such measures are absolutely necessary.

I think that's the point. And my point is, even if they did... and I know they are giving us all these warnings. But, I mean if they came and out said, "RED ALERT! Nuke attack is iminent. We don't know exactly who, where, how or what to look for. But it is for sure." Can you imagine. And... if it happens, I am doing all I can do. I am looking. I am watching. I am reading and trying to keep udated. Heck, I even bought some sort of hand held ham that I can operate in an emergancy like that. (Not that I know what to do with it.) And I know there are rumors of "tent cities" ready to set up if "it" should happen. [I will not go.] This is too mind boggling. I liked it better when I was a kid and city hall had nuke shelters. ;)

61 posted on 07/19/2004 8:32:16 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (REtired: raising grandkids (pray for us))
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To: thinkahead
"Since they do not care about their own lives, since they are determined to die for their cause, deterrence is ineffective."

I'm sick and tired of these pussies who are always talking about "deterrence being ineffective".

If all of a sudden several hundred thousand muslims disappeared in a mushroom cloud, not only would those particular ragheads now be harmless, the ones that are left would trip over themselves to rat out whoever it took to stay alive.

We would have their undivided attention.

62 posted on 07/19/2004 8:37:44 PM PDT by Wumpus Hunter (<a href="http://moveon.org" target="blank">Communist front group for Kerry</a>)
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To: PokeyJoe
duck and cover...

Yep. And I figured it out. I am taking these grandbabies straight to the jiffy-lube down the street. I am sure that adrenalin rush thing (where you can move mountains) will take over. They will make it into that concrete hole with that lead covering. (My dad use to say, when I was in school and we'd have those "nuke drills", best thing you can do is bend over and kiss your a$$.)

63 posted on 07/19/2004 8:38:48 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (REtired: raising grandkids (pray for us))
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To: Dano50

You forgot London.


64 posted on 07/19/2004 8:38:56 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Tourette's syndrome is just a $&#$*!% excuse for poor *%$#** language skills.)
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To: scott7278

Bookmarked.


65 posted on 07/19/2004 8:39:10 PM PDT by scott7278 (Kerry/Edwards: More Affordable Hair Care for America)
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To: agincourt1415

I think what we are really looking at is "maybe a dirty bomb" if that happens, we have a REAL WAR, Americans will understand and support any steps the President wants to take, its unfortunate that Americans have forgotten 9/11.


There seems to be a percentage that haven't(unfortunately, a small one), but the next major terrorist attack, be it with suitcase bombs or tanker trucks with be the awakening to the American public of just how vicious and determined these animal are.
I, for one, won't get any pleasure out of saying those famous words "don't say I didn't tell you so". can honestly say that I predicted a catastrophe like 9/11 as early as 5 years before it happened.


66 posted on 07/19/2004 8:40:52 PM PDT by conshack
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To: King Prout; All
Hello King...

Been surfing around for some previous stories about the suitcase matter...and came across this....


Northeast Intelligence Network

NEW! In the July 17th (2004) edition of the HQ-INTEL ALERT

In the HQ INEL-ALERT released Saturday night, just how close was the US to "losing a city" this week to a nuclear detonation? According to our inside government sources, "extremely close." In this issue, we offer up-to-the minute and in-depth investigative findings on this frightening topic, which seems to be coincidently timed with author Paul L. Williams' newly released book Osama's Revenge, America's next 9/11.

Are you prepared?


Anyone got any info on this site???

Think-A-Head....

67 posted on 07/19/2004 8:43:09 PM PDT by thinkahead (to avoid future problems...)
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To: thinkahead
The smaller the nuke, the shorter the shelf life.

The less shielding that you have, the sooner that your electronics and conventional explosives deteriorate from the radiation.

The less fissionable material that you have, the faster you generally need your atomic trigger isotopes to emit neutrons. The faster you emit neutrons, the shorter your half-life. The shorter your half-life, the less time that you have before the nuke simply fizzles instead of booms.

This is simple physics. Moreover, heavy metals like uranium and plutonium are among the most brittle materials known to man, and the slightest bit of humidity turns them into uranium oxide or plutonium oxide (i.e. worthless rust).

So a "suitcase nuke" from 1996 is likely little more than a rusted, shattered, fragmented collection of wiring and explosives today.

9 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires

68 posted on 07/19/2004 8:45:02 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Wumpus Hunter
We would have their undivided attention.
 

To say the least...

Atomic Cannon

69 posted on 07/19/2004 8:45:42 PM PDT by thinkahead (to avoid future problems...)
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To: Southack
So a "suitcase nuke" from 1996 is likely little more than a rusted, shattered, fragmented collection of wiring and explosives today.

1.    Let's hope they are staying in High Humidity Zones...

2.    Let's hope they do not have access to large quantities of desiccant moisture absorbent that is in every box of sneakers I buy!!

70 posted on 07/19/2004 8:48:05 PM PDT by thinkahead (to avoid future problems...)
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To: jerrydavenport

1- well first of all i don't know if suitcase sized nukes are really possible. High tech US sites might be able to make them. I doubt if many countries could


We have them - nuff said.


71 posted on 07/19/2004 8:48:55 PM PDT by gogipper
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To: jerrydavenport

1. They are possible and have been produced [Soviet Union]

2. Money buys anything, and their non-use does not disprove possession.

3. The Russians can not account for their "suitcase" nukes...estimates as high as 100 are missing.

All of this has been well-documented. Do a web search.


72 posted on 07/19/2004 8:50:22 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: Indie

c#68


73 posted on 07/19/2004 8:51:08 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Dano50
Every explosion on our soil results in the random selection of an important city and it is obliterated.

Boy, if that kind of insanity gets perpetrated by our government I'll join the other side.

74 posted on 07/19/2004 8:51:23 PM PDT by steve86
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To: thinkahead

Anyone with conviction will do as they can . Good or bad . Very simple . I'll leave it up to the micro biology types here to debate the obvious .


75 posted on 07/19/2004 8:53:46 PM PDT by Ben Bolt ( " The Spenders " ..)
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To: thinkahead

Yes.


76 posted on 07/19/2004 8:56:44 PM PDT by BagCamAddict (God Bless our Military Heroes who defend our right and ability to Freep!)
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To: BearWash

Bye


77 posted on 07/19/2004 8:57:32 PM PDT by Dano50
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To: thinkahead
Flawed logic. Announce names of countries that will be retaliated against, and they'll become allies in finding terrorist who hold nukes.

The basis of our nuclear defense for half a century has been “deterrence.” Unless you can pinpoint your enemy, unless you can locate him on a map, you cannot send a missile against him. You cannot retaliate. In the case of terrorists hiding in remote mountain caves, there may be no deterrence even if you threaten to locate them and nuke their cave. Since they do not care about their own lives, since they are determined to die for their cause, deterrence is ineffective.

78 posted on 07/19/2004 8:59:47 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Dano50

Those of us with relatives in those cities you mentioned really appreciate your cold, calculated logic. Just shows me that DU is not the only forum on the net with maniacs on it.


79 posted on 07/19/2004 9:11:06 PM PDT by steve86
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Al Qaeda?s stated goal is the destruction of the United States.

Suitcase 'Pukes' will be used!

What can 'poppy' money buy?

(Great harvest this year in Afghanistan.)

(Arab oil prices up,......we're paying for the 'Pukes' that they'll use against.)

(Gas up,.....pay the 'Mosque tax'......)

Give a helping hand, sucker.

/sarcasm

80 posted on 07/19/2004 9:16:29 PM PDT by maestro
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