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CA: Governor's "girlie" remark could further set back budget talks
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 7/19/04 | Tom Chorneau - AP

Posted on 07/19/2004 5:18:20 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SACRAMENTO (AP) - In a sure sign the summer's budget brouhaha is frothing over, the Capitol's leading Democrat said Monday that Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger can start looking for a new cappuccino pal. Senate President Pro Temp John Burton, D-San Francisco, said he was steamed with remarks the Republican governor made over the weekend accusing Democrats of holding up the budget and acting like "girlie men" for not standing up to special interests.

With more than manhood on the line, Burton said the remarks could set the budget process back another two weeks because of reaction within the Legislature's Democratic majority and key interest groups.

The friendship between Burton and Schwarzenegger has been key to new bipartisan cooperation that captured the Capitol after the governor took office in November. The liberal senior senator has helped cultivate the relationship with freshly brewed European coffee he sometimes delivers to private meetings with governor.

Not any more.

In a move that appeared only half in jest, Burton stuck a handwritten note on his espresso machine saying "Closed until further notice."

"I was a little bit worried about whether Arnold thought he was elected God or elected governor," said Burton. "The governor talks to us one day about working together and together we can get this done and then another day going out and insulting our masculinity."

The budget, now 19 days overdue, has been held up over differences on three points - local government funding and the repeal of two labor laws.

The governor and his Republican colleagues want to get rid of a law that restricts contracting out services at public schools and another that lets workers sue employers to enforce labor laws.

Although budget negotiators said late last week that they believed they were close to a compromise, the talks broke down amid partisan rhetoric and finger pointing.

Schwarzenegger held public rallies over the weekend accusing Democrats of refusing to compromise. At a mall in Ontario, Schwarzenegger said Democrats were catering to special interests.

"If they don't have the guts to come up here in front of you and say, 'I don't want to represent you, I want to represent those special interests, the unions, the trial lawyers ...,' if they don't have the guts, I call them girlie men," the governor said.

Margita Thompson, Schwarzenegger's spokeswoman, said that the governor would not apologize for the remark, a reference to a "Saturday Night Live" skit that spoofed the governor's days as a bodybuilder - long before he turned to politics.

She said Monday that there remains a "framework" of a budget agreement with Democrats and that Schwarzenegger is ready to renew talks at any time - including with Burton.

Assembly Republican leader Kevin McCarthy of Bakersfield, said the governor's remarks Saturday "showed a great deal of leadership" because they highlighted the fundamental difference between the two parties over spending. "Democrats want to spend more, that's the issue," he said.

As fallout from the governor's comments continued, a Senate committee considered a constitutional amendment aimed at permanently protecting local government tax money from the Legislature.

While there is agreement that local tax money should be kept local, there is no agreement on how best to protect cities and counties from future state raids.

Burton also noted that Democrats have a budget bill reflecting almost all the agreements that have been reached since May with the administration - except for the local funding and labor laws. He said the Senate could vote on the Democratic version Wednesday.

Thompson said there is no agreement until all the issues have been settled.

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Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger: http://www.governor.ca.gov/state/govsite/gov-homepage.jsp

California Senate: http://www.sen.ca.gov/

California Assembly: http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/defaulttext.asp


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: budgettalks; calgov2002; girlie; girliemen; remark; schwarzenegger; setback
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To: Susannah
Local TV news reported the "girlie man" remark over and over. Commentators said it was a "sexist and homophobic" remark.

It would be more correct to say it is a Saturday Night Livest or Hans and Fritzist remark.

41 posted on 07/19/2004 7:37:13 PM PDT by Ruth A.
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To: Susannah
Local TV news reported the "girlie man" remark over and over. Commentators said it was a "sexist and homophobic" remark

Of course they did. They got their marching orders from their Commandant. "There shall be no dissent in my state" said the Liberal High Command.

42 posted on 07/19/2004 7:43:33 PM PDT by GeronL (wketchup.com........................www.bushcountryketchup.com)
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To: Anvilhead
I don't suppose we could just GIVE California to Mexico?

Why would you want to do that? Just because you don't like the fight? Do you want to give your guns to Sara Brady? Do you want to give your children to Hillary Clinton? Do you want to give all your property to the UN?

Me? I'm going to continue fighting for the things I love and treasure, and California is certainly one of the things I love. It is the most wealthy and one of the most beautiful states in the Union. Most importantly it is my home, the home of Ronald Reagan, and I'll be darned if I ever give it up as long as I am alive and breathing.

43 posted on 07/19/2004 7:52:44 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (If you can read this, thank a teacher....and since it's in English, thank a soldier)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Wow.. they really *ARE* girlie-men!

And they got their panties in a bunch.

44 posted on 07/19/2004 7:54:01 PM PDT by NeoCaveman ("If we beat them bad enough, they can't cheat" - Hugh Hewitt)
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To: GeronL

I'm glad he used 'girlie'man. America is facing a choice: should mommy run things, or should daddy? Daddy can be a real pain in the *ss when he takes his belt off (failed govt. programs), while mommy will look to other ways to super-fund failing programs when a belt in her hip-huggers doesn't exist. I want it easy, give me momma.


45 posted on 07/19/2004 7:58:13 PM PDT by budwiesest (The flow of menstrual males to the polls in support of Kerry remains a question,)
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To: ElkGroveDan
It's not a question of your will to fight. That's obviously in good shape.

It's a question of who's going to join you. The more I hear about Cali, the less and less hope I have.
You should fight for what you love and treasure.
Yes California is one of the most beautiful in the Union. But for how long?
Socialism is crippling your state, and the nation as a whole, as we speak. Arnold has slowed the decline in Cali but it's still there.
How many illegals can be absorbed?
How many business have already fled the state?
With Hollywood under fire for their stupidity, and given the state of technology, how long before films are made elsewhere?

Wealth is based on production of something.

What will California be producing in the future that will be profitable enough to pay for all the social costs?

You couldn't get a profit margin like that if you owned the only crack growing orchard in the world.
46 posted on 07/19/2004 8:15:41 PM PDT by Anvilhead (When danger reared its ugly head, Brave Sir Robin turned and fled)
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To: NormsRevenge

"Set back" to the media is when a Republican does not kowtow to the Democrat Party position.

Ahnold nailed the Democrat on this one. He has exposed them on two points. The budget and re-election.

Demcrats are seriously afraid that being called weak girly men will make them loose re-election? yes. Democrats seriously are afraid homosexual democrats will loose office just because they are called weak girly men? yes.

Must be tough to be a member of the Democrat (gay) Party.


47 posted on 07/19/2004 8:25:35 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Susannah

Will kerry be the girly man of Ahnold's convention speech?

This coment made him about to have an automatic jump in ratings.


48 posted on 07/19/2004 9:06:11 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: ElkGroveDan; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; farmfriend; tubebender; Ernest_at_the_Beach; forester

Go Dan! Great Post!


49 posted on 07/19/2004 11:23:51 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl; Ramonan
Thanks for the ping:

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From the Survey:

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Do you think Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger should apologize for calling legislators "girlie men"?
Choice Votes Percentage of 933 Votes
Yes 197 21%
No 736 79%
Thank you for taking the NBC 7/39 e-poll. Check back here to see if other voters agreed with you.

50 posted on 07/19/2004 11:57:01 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (New Linux SUSE Pro 9.1 user here.)
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To: You Dirty Rats; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; Brad's Gramma; onyx; Howlin
You might enjoy this thread regarding the convention and what Arnold might do:

"Cry, Girlie Men!" CARTOON featuring Guv Schwarzenegger, Edwards, Kerry

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51 posted on 07/20/2004 12:03:11 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (New Linux SUSE Pro 9.1 user here.)
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To: budwiesest

"Menstrual males!" Great, I love it!


52 posted on 07/20/2004 12:51:45 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: ElkGroveDan

Our fight is not so much with the 'Rats in Sac as it's with the press who kisses their Girlie butts on a hourly basis...


53 posted on 07/20/2004 6:13:11 AM PDT by tubebender (If I had known I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself...)
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To: xrp
but my understanding was that 'girlie man' was ANY male who had a wimpy appearance and didn't workout in the gym. I don't it being a reference to homosexuals.

Even it was a reference to homosexuals --- why would democrats have a problem with that? To democrats, homosexuality is completely natural and wonderful --- they support the homosexual agenda and pander for their votes. Aren't they kind of snubbing a good portion of their supporters by running from something like a "girlie man" label?

54 posted on 07/20/2004 6:23:37 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: NormsRevenge
Senate President Pro Temp John Burton, D-San Francisco, said he was steamed with remarks the Republican governor made over the weekend accusing Democrats of holding up the budget and acting like "girlie men" for not standing up to special interests.

Thus proving the governator was correct on all counts.

55 posted on 07/20/2004 6:26:31 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: NormsRevenge

Watch out, Arnold, they are so not going to invite you to go to the mall with them, and one of them may even pinch you!


56 posted on 07/20/2004 6:29:22 AM PDT by Puddleglum (Kerry sez life begins at conception, yet he supports abortion. Is he evil, lying, or insane?)
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To: longtermmemmory
Will kerry be the girly man of Ahnold's convention speech?

The two johns spend more time and money on their hairdos than most women would.

57 posted on 07/20/2004 6:54:16 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
The two johns spend more time and money on their hairdos...

The girlie Dems are so full of crap, it takes two johns to flush it away...

And lately, no matter how hard they pound on their high-chair trays, their anti-Bush message simply doesn't seem to stick anymore:

Linda Ronstadt: NO STICK...booted out of hotel suite...Vegas show-goers demand REFUNDS;

Whoopi Goldberg: NO STICK...vulgar reference to turds falls flat after stool samples show stronger resemblance to Whoopi than to Bush;

Michael Moore: NO STICK...even girlie-Mag TIME Magazine, for cryin' out loud, couldn't stomach all the obvious lies in "Fahrenheit 911".

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA,,,,,

58 posted on 07/21/2004 2:45:16 PM PDT by O Neill (When Johny bin Kerry comes marchin' home: Who cares? Who cares?)
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