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Plastic Wrap Barrier Causes Motorcycle Crash
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel ^ | July 16, 2004 | DARRYL ENRIQUEZ

Posted on 07/19/2004 9:01:53 AM PDT by BluegrassScholar

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To: mvpel

. . . or a nice 5 snap wrap-around. I ground up one of these rather nicely myself, back when I was younger and more foolish. You could see the imprint from my face plain as day; the nose, the cheekbones, the chin, eye sockets. Two of the five snaps were ground completely off, yet the shield still held. It saved my face that November evening so long ago.
101 posted on 07/19/2004 7:54:29 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: JoeSixPack1
There's a guy around these parts who runs THREE nitrous bottles on his Bagger; two of the little 4" diameter x 12" ones (one on each saddlebag rack) and one BIG one hanging below the Tour Pak, all chromed. He tells me he went to three because he was tired of running empty in a single night. He says it'll do wheelies in fourth gear.

Big strapping Indian Outlaw dude. He's either full of Barbara Streisand or stone cold crazy; I can't decide which.
102 posted on 07/19/2004 8:07:34 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: JoeSixPack1

Oh yea, and real quiet pipes. Go figure . . .


103 posted on 07/19/2004 8:10:04 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: BluegrassScholar
Good Evening All-

BluegrassScholar, wow, this is quite a disturbing news article you've found. Needless to say, once they find the assh*les responsible, they should cool their heels in jail for a LONG time.

Even more disturbing are the FReepers who are thinking, "Gee, that motorcycle trap made from cellophane sounds like a great idea to get back at riders with loud pipes..." I don't detect any sarcasm or see [/rant] tags, so some of our online cohorts have r-e-a-l problems with which to contend.

Factories use this stuff to wrap furniture, pallets of food, and plenty of other shipping/industrial applications. Stretched tightly across a roadway, it would take down a motorcyclist as sure as God made apples. It's premeditated and should pack a wallop for punishment.

~ Blue Jays ~

104 posted on 07/19/2004 8:10:24 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Rebelbase

what do pinto beans on a lawn do?


105 posted on 07/19/2004 8:14:09 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: BraveMan
He's either full of Barbara Streisand or stone cold crazy...

First,, wow, guys got enough nitrous to last all night!!

Second,, I always give the benefit of the doubt when i suspect a load of BS just to be polite, so this guy is stone cold bone scrapping nuts!! Don't ride with 'im!!

I can only suspect that he's going after the v-twin japs. Serious spurtin' to take on a op-6 valk or, what is it, kowie or yamamamamaha 1800cc 2 wheel rocket ships. If he's a low-life he's not running into to many TP 141cube or Merch v-twins in his circle of friends which is what he is bottled up to do with a dresser vs big v-twin slammers.

And what kind of highway driving can this bozo do? hehehhe Wherever he's going it sounds like he doesn't plan on spending a lot of time getting there.

<|:-)~~

106 posted on 07/19/2004 8:23:46 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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To: MineralMan

It was a yellow rice rocket.


107 posted on 07/19/2004 8:26:31 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Arthalion; Modernman
Good Evening All-

Posted by Arthalion:
"...When that dumba** kid rode into my tiger pit (3-foot deep concrete-lined pit designed specifically to catch and forcibly dismount dirtbike riders coming up my road) his dad tried to have me arrested and then tried to sue. In both cases, he had no case because the traps were set inside not only my property line, but my gated fenceline. That particular kid had actually knocked my brand new $300 gate over and gunned it up my road without knowing that there was an open trap ahead.

Both the police and the judge said the same thing...they were forcibly tresspassing, and the boys' injuries directly resulted from that. I could have strung Saran Wrap, concertina, or a flipping piano wire across the road, and it's unlikely that I would have been held any more responsible..."

*************************

Arthalion, I don't know you and you don't know me...but I'm waving the BS flag here. I don't believe you're telling the entire truth. There isn't a state in this country who would accomodate your well-documented propensity to cause bodily damage. Hey, you even said it on the Internet.

Just because I don't like schoolkids cutting through my yard doesn't mean I can dig a trench as deep as the tallest, wide as the fattest, and line it with punji sticks just because it's my yard. It would be classified as a crime.

~ Blue Jays ~

108 posted on 07/19/2004 8:26:38 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: mvpel

the full face would have snapped his neck like a noose.

the chin strap acts like a hangman's noose.

Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 218, which is the standar for motorcycle helmets, not no standard to adress tension on the neck rotation.

It is a product defect with is litigated when the neck is snapped but the rider does not die.


109 posted on 07/19/2004 8:30:07 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: longtermmemmory

Do you mean the chin strap, which is present on every motorcycle helmet, or the chin bar across the face of a full-face helmet? I presume the latter...


110 posted on 07/19/2004 8:39:26 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: JoeSixPack1
Like the old saying goes, "Theres no replacement for displacement" . . .

Feuling Motor Company
111 posted on 07/19/2004 8:56:09 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: mvpel

sorry about the typos.

the chin strap.

if you hit a full face on the lower chin the head is jerked back causig the snap. It is a specific liability problem of full face helmets. (picture if you will a nice upward directed of a baseball bat impacting the lower chin point of the helmet. The whole helmet moves back suddenly with the chin strap acting as a noose.)

It was first discovered during the 1950's when the navy was trying to figure out why their pilots who ejected into the ocean were turning up dead from broken necks. It resulted in design changes.

The same effort is more difficult on full face helmets which have added weight.



112 posted on 07/19/2004 8:56:29 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: JoeSixPack1
V-twins valve geometry have a minimal % of overlap where both valves are open. Straight pipes and over baffled pipes fail the basic designs by not allowing the exhaust gases room to create a vacuum from that overlap which pulls more air into the chamber thus making a bigger boom in the chamber giving you more HP.

Exactly, which is why I have have the stock crossover pipe on my Sporty with modified slip-on baffles. I have all the WOT I need, but with enough reversion that I haven't sacrificed any mid-range torque to get it.

113 posted on 07/19/2004 9:06:12 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Arthalion

I normally don't do this, but you're just flat out lying. Booby-trapping is illegal. It doesn't even matter if you booby-trap your house behind locked doors. If this kids father had called the cops as you say, you'd be behind bars, and if this kids father had gotten a lawyer as you say, he'd own everything you have.


114 posted on 07/19/2004 9:09:11 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Melas

Barricades on private property aren't boobytraps, as far as I can tell--even if they are difficult to see at a high rate of speed. If they are, then a lot of existing barbed wire fences are booby traps. Heck I've even run into barbed wire in the woods just walking.


115 posted on 07/19/2004 9:15:30 PM PDT by WorldWatcher1
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To: longtermmemmory

If something is going to hit the chin hard enough to snap someone's neck, wouldn't that also be hard enough to smash the entire lower portion of someone's face into a crunchy jumble of pulp and bone fragments?


116 posted on 07/19/2004 9:16:10 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: WorldWatcher1

Conceal one and find out.


117 posted on 07/19/2004 9:23:54 PM PDT by Melas
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To: BraveMan

Never pick an argument with anything named FEULING!


118 posted on 07/19/2004 9:31:01 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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To: Melas
I don't believe it for a moment. Even without looking, I'll tell you those are dirt bikes, not Harley's.

I could very well be mistaken--I do know less than nothing about motorcycles. I could swear the familiar silver H-D logo was on them, but it's possible I didn't see accurately when trying to leap out of their way. It was noticeable that they didn't have the knobby tires one would expect with off-road vehicles, but the paths are very smooth and level and perhaps these wouldn't be necessary.

119 posted on 07/19/2004 10:33:06 PM PDT by Capriole (DO NOT WRITE IN THIS SPACE. FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY.)
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To: Melas
I don't believe it for a moment. Even without looking, I'll tell you those are dirt bikes, not Harley's.

I could very well be mistaken--I do know less than nothing about motorcycles. I could swear the familiar silver H-D logo was on them, but it's possible I didn't see accurately when trying to leap out of their way. It was noticeable that they didn't have the knobby tires one would expect with off-road vehicles, but the paths are very smooth and level and perhaps these wouldn't be necessary.

120 posted on 07/19/2004 10:36:28 PM PDT by Capriole (DO NOT WRITE IN THIS SPACE. FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY.)
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