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The most famous Sniper kill of the war was made by Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock from Hill 555 (just west of DaNang) with a scoped .50 cal. It's famous because of the distance - which I think was over 2300 yards.

And when Kerry says that the use of .50 cal's against personnel is prohibited by the Geneva Conventions he is correct.

73 posted on 07/18/2004 8:24:38 PM PDT by wasnova
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To: wasnova
"And when Kerry says that the use of .50 cal's against personnel is prohibited by the Geneva Conventions he is correct."

Could you point out where the Conventions actually say this??? I'm trying to find it.....perhaps a URL???

Thanks,

redrock

78 posted on 07/18/2004 8:41:37 PM PDT by redrock ("Better a Shack in Heaven....than a Mansion in Hell"---My Grandma)
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To: wasnova
And when Kerry says that the use of .50 cal's against personnel is prohibited by the Geneva Conventions he is correct.

Here's your chance to back up that statement with a source.

M2 .50 Caliber [12.7mm] Machine Gun

This gun may be mounted on ground mounts and most vehicles as an anti-personnel and anti-aircraft weapon. Associated components are the M63 antiaircraft mount and the M3 tripod mount. The M2 .50 Cal. flexible version is used as a ground gun on the M3 tripod mount or various Naval mounts. The M2 .50 Cal., M48 turret type, fixed type, and soft mount are installed on mounts of several different types of combat vehicles and ships. The weapon provides automatic weapon suppressive fire for offensive and defensive purposes. This weapon can be used effectively against personnel, light armored vehicles; low, slow flying aircraft; and small boats.

The M2 machine gun on the M3 tripod provided a very stable firing platform. Together with its slow rate of fire and its traversing and elevating mechanism, the M2 was used to a very limited extent as a sniper weapon during the Vietnam war at fixed installations such as firebases. Snipers prefired the weapons at identifiable targets and worked the data into range cards insuring increased first-round accuracy. The 1st Battalion, 5th Infantry, 25th Infantry Division constructed 20-30 foot high shooting platforms, adding steel base plates and posts to further stabilize the M2 on the M3 tripod. Together with the use of Starlight night vision scopes, the M2 severely limited enemy movement within 900 yards (1,000m) of the perimeter of a firebase.

79 posted on 07/18/2004 8:43:41 PM PDT by AndrewC (I am a Bertrand Russell agnostic, even an atheist.</sarcasm>)
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To: wasnova

Actually, we don't use .50 caliber against people....

We use it against their equipment! If it hits them in the process of destroying their gear, oh well! Sucks to be them. Shouldn't have taken up arms against us in the first place.


80 posted on 07/18/2004 8:43:51 PM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (Proud Member of the Reagan Republicans)
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