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Scales was an SF officer before getting his star, so I suppose he provides some offset to Murray (whom I don't know). I spent some years under his command. He was (and is) a good man. He got picked up out of the National Guard as an O6 when it started dawning on various people (Schoomaker was one) that one of the group commanders was significantly smarter than the others.

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I have only seen Scales on TV and I have been impressed with him. I believe he also wrote the official history of the first Gulf War. As for Murray, I liked him as a "P" and also like many of his essays and books. I still remember Murray teaching many interesting theories about airpower and other stories. He had many interesting "insights" on history like was "Nuts" 'really' said at the Battle of the Bulge (Murray said that the real reply was "F... You"...). While Murray seemed happy as a visiting Professor, he since as expressed many dislikes about the army (many of which I can understand), but unlike most airpower guys, Murray at least seems to know that the final say in combat is really done by the guys on the ground....

Bob Scales was an artilleryman, not SF. If you're referring to him as being to Scales as being in the National Guard, you're wrong on that point. He's a USMA graduate, was always in the Regular Army. It's unclear who you refer to in your post, when you say you were under his command.

I'm not acquainted with Murray...is that who you refer to?