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To: okie01; cyncooper; lainie; aristeides; PhilDragoo; marron; Fedora; piasa; Alamo-Girl; seamole; ...

Ping. I gave it a shot.


2 posted on 07/17/2004 4:33:00 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy

Very well done!


5 posted on 07/17/2004 4:38:37 PM PDT by illiac
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To: Shermy
Looks good. BTW when you comment he makes a simple thing complex, I've noticed he does that a lot. Here's another place I noticed him doing that:

The TPM Interview with Ambassador Joseph Wilson

We owned the 20,000 American troops that participated in the operation until they got down to Bosnia, when they became part of a NATO operation which was under the command of George Joulwan in his NATO hat--it's a little complicated for people who don't have the business to understand. George and I went down to--General Joulwan and I--went down to Geneva and we spoke with the UN Humanitarian organizations early on and we set up a liaison office so that we could marry up, to the best--to the largest extent possible, the civilian and military cultures that would be involved in this. And George used to brief this. He used to have a slide--two slides--one that was a big "M" little "c" and the other which was a big "C" little "m." Now the point he tried to make with that was when you do these sort of operations you go in big military--the military takes care of all the tasks that it can take care of so long as the situation is insecure. But the military also works very closely with a small civilian component for the humanitarian relief activities that the civilian component can deliver more efficiently than the military can and for which the civilian component is in fact organized to do. As the situation becomes more secure and the civilian component can operate in relative security, you grow the civilian component as you're shrinking the military component. So some of those tasks that the military is taking in the first place are shifted over to the civilian.

Here he takes a simple concept that could be explained in one sentence and manages to turn it into a pedantic lecture. He seems to be in the habit of using verbal distraction to deflect and confuse and intimidate. Cutting through his words to their lack of substance like you're doing here is precisely what's needed to counter that tactic.

7 posted on 07/17/2004 4:55:28 PM PDT by Fedora (Kerryman, Kerryman, does whatever a ketchup can/Spins a lie, any size, catches wives just like flies)
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To: Shermy
"Ping. I gave it a shot."

And you done good.

However,
1) Summation is; Wilson is a liar, a big far liar, not as big as Michael Moore, but a big...etc.
2) Just try getting quoted anywhere other than FR [FOX might plagiarize, go ahead and let 'em do it]. And,
3) The 48+/- percent who supported Wilson then, support Wilson now, and will support Wilson tomorrow.

Thanks, you did a lot more than I'd have attempted.

22 posted on 07/17/2004 5:48:57 PM PDT by norton
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To: Shermy
Joseph C. Wilson IV is a "diplomat", thus skilled in the mystic arts of deflection and dissembling.

No better proven than by this:

"I did not speak out on the subject until several months after it became evident that what underpinned the assertion in the State of the Union address were those documents, reports of which had sparked Vice President Cheney's original question that led to my trip."

"Those documents", of course, being the "forged documents" which purportedly discredited any uranium deal between Niger and Iraq.

However, we know "those documents" had nothing to do with Bush's assertion in the SOTU -- he specifically cited "British intelligence".

And, we know "those documents" couldn't have "sparked" Cheney's original request that led to Wilson's trip -- because nobody knew they existed in March, 2002. They didn't come to light until that summer, as I recall.

There is an almost juvenile insistence, by Wilson and the Democrats, to continue to cite the "forged documents" even though we now know they played no role in any critical decision. They keep clinging to this "stalking horse" because, as the truth becomes known, they have no leg left to stand on.

Which leads me to believe that the "forged documents" were created as "disinformation" in the first place -- in order to be discredited and, thus, mask any transaction(s) which might really be taking place.

In fact, I now wonder if the Democrat faction in the CIA may have created and planted them with the Italians...

We need to keep Wilson talking. Thanks to his bigmouth syndrome, we learned his 1999 trip had something to do with uranium, too. Why would the Clinton administration have suspected such a thing, I wonder...???

The more he talks, the less credibility he has, the more he damages the Kerry foreign policy.

23 posted on 07/17/2004 5:51:30 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Shermy

Helluva job, Shermy. Helluva job!


24 posted on 07/17/2004 5:52:08 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Shermy
Follow the Yellowcake Road!
Follow the Yellowcake Road!
Follow the, follow the, follow the, follow the,
Follow the Yellowcake Road!
Follow the yellowcake, follow the yellowcake,
Follow the Yellowcake Road!

We're off to see the Wizard, the wonderful Wizard of Plame!

36 posted on 07/17/2004 7:12:15 PM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: Shermy

Kudos!!! Thanks for the ping!


73 posted on 07/18/2004 2:28:25 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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