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Andrew Sullivan: Never say gay: Bush plays a subtle vote card
The Sunday Times ^ | July 18, 2004 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 07/17/2004 4:11:41 PM PDT by MadIvan

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To: OPERSYST4

Oh me nerves! *LOL*


22 posted on 07/17/2004 8:46:32 PM PDT by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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To: MadIvan
by November it will be polarised to within an inch of its life.

We can and should expect a very tough battle. Undecideds tend to swing for the new guy, not the incumbent.

23 posted on 07/17/2004 9:19:33 PM PDT by GVnana (Tagline? I don't need no stinkin' tagline!)
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To: Happygal

None so blind as he who doesn't want to see.


24 posted on 07/17/2004 10:15:05 PM PDT by little jeremiah ("You're possibly the most ignorant, belligerent, and loathesome poster on FR currently." - tdadams)
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To: SAJ; MadIvan
Sounds as if he has a touch of dildonic plague.

LOL... classic commentary if I ever saw it.

Cheers,
KaJac
25 posted on 07/18/2004 12:00:50 AM PDT by KangarooJacqui (http://www.RightGoths.com/ - Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. Wear black and be proud!)
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To: MadIvan
For a while, I read Andrew's blog every day. He is very talented and often has good insights into war, freedom, and politics. In this piece, he made a good point that when the undecided are a smaller percentage, then the electoral strategy necessarily becomes get out the base.

But Sullivan is so excruciatingly wrong about the gay marriage issue that he becomes unreadable.

27 posted on 07/18/2004 12:15:15 AM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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KangarooJacqui..you are the one who requested I not address you on threads.

I respectfully suggest, you follow your own advice.


28 posted on 07/18/2004 12:30:57 AM PDT by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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I'm the one who lives half a world away from you, and for that you should be thankful.

BTW, please qualify.

29 posted on 07/18/2004 12:33:28 AM PDT by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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To: MadIvan

Andy talks an awful lot about his penis.


30 posted on 07/18/2004 12:35:50 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: KangarooJacqui; MadIvan

I have no intention of 'winning back' anything or anyone.

Nor have I ANY intention of lowering myself by playing out a crude game on a public forum.


32 posted on 07/18/2004 12:57:47 AM PDT by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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To: KangarooJacqui; MadIvan

I have no intention of being bullied by you KJ.


34 posted on 07/18/2004 1:04:10 AM PDT by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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To: ECM
his long diatribe about how celibacy is unnatural therefore, essentially, pushing priests into abusing young teens

That's not at all what he said. He said if there wasn't a celibacy requirement, more non-pedophiles would go into the priesthood. Part of the problem is that the Church is short of priests, so (the argument goes) it is less likely to turn away bad candidates.

I don't think Sullivan ever said depriving a normal person of sex would turn him into a child molester. I challenge you to find where he said that. I think you're (deliberately?) mis-stating his argument to make him look as bad as possible.

35 posted on 07/18/2004 1:09:34 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: KangarooJacqui; MadIvan

So this is not being addressed?


37 posted on 07/18/2004 1:17:28 AM PDT by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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To: KangarooJacqui
Classic? Hmmm.

Bet you even money though, that he occasionally eats possum stew... (g!)

38 posted on 07/18/2004 1:20:47 AM PDT by SAJ (Buy 1 NGH05 7.50 call, Sell 3 NGH05 11.00 calls against, for $800-1000 net credit OB. Stone lock.)
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I think it's been agreed that no further discussion is required.

Thank you.

Regards, Ivan

39 posted on 07/18/2004 1:21:17 AM PDT by MadIvan (Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. - http://www.rightgoths.com/)
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To: MadIvan

I agree. And I hope so.

Regards,
A. :-)


40 posted on 07/18/2004 1:22:58 AM PDT by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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