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LARGE BRUSH FIRE - **FOOTHILL FIRE** LA COUNTY - PLACERITA CYN - SAND CYN - NEWHALL
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Posted on 07/17/2004 4:05:43 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

There is a large fire in the Santa Clarita Area of Los Angeles County....if you are in SoCal, that is the very large smoke clouds to the north.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: acton; crownfire; ditzwithimplants; foothillfire; losangeles; ravenna; santaclarita; shambala; vincentgrade
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To: Carry_Okie

Can the Crown fire be attributed to environ-mentals not allowing controlled burns, or is this just an unfortunate mix of situation and bad luck?


321 posted on 07/21/2004 11:47:19 AM PDT by lainie
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Sounds like a call for a new fire but I didn't catch where.


322 posted on 07/21/2004 11:51:33 AM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
Can the Crown fire be attributed to environ-mentals not allowing controlled burns, or is this just an unfortunate mix of situation and bad luck?

Oh, it's a result of policy all right, but the precise mechanism could be any number of things. I'd have to be there and take a look and know the local history to even have a clue.

323 posted on 07/21/2004 11:53:59 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Privatizating environmental regulation is critical to national defense.)
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Engine company 53 in Baker told to stay put. I guess that's their home. (poor guys) Engine 401 in route but they won't repeat to where.


324 posted on 07/21/2004 11:54:44 AM PDT by lainie
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To: Carry_Okie

The only mention I've seen of specific brush:

"The Crown Fire is burning along Mt. Emma Ridge and moving towards Littlerock Dam. My husband says that if it crosses the creek, he's coming home, but he doesn't think it will. I hope he's right! There is a lot of dry brush and bark-beetle damaged trees along there."

Oh well, we'll find out later. Thanks for the response.


325 posted on 07/21/2004 11:57:42 AM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie

"Beetle damaged trees" are usually a sign of overstocking and resulting water competition that can be a result of fire exclusion.


326 posted on 07/21/2004 12:04:05 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Privatizating environmental regulation is critical to national defense.)
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To: BurbankKarl

The orange area is the area burned yesterday afternoon, the red is active burn. New fire reported 138/2.

328 posted on 07/21/2004 12:17:38 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: lainie

That update is just what you and I can download at 6am from NIFC. But, if you are MaureenOs hubby sleeping up there in the burnt brush, you want to know whats up. All you have is a radio.

You do get to know there is no break in the weather in the forseeable future, the winds, etc.

There is a longer report that lists all the fire engines levels in California....the Batallion Chiefs have to pay attention, since they will know whether they are up the creek without a paddle (like now) if something big breaks out.


329 posted on 07/21/2004 12:21:12 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: sf4dubya

I have no doubt in my mind that the San Berdoo arsonist is going to try to take out Big Bear this summer. There were five starts on July 4th.

Just like the Bouquet Cyn arsonist...there is almost nothing left to burn around Santa Clarita now.


330 posted on 07/21/2004 12:23:02 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: lainie

You do know about Baker...dont you?


331 posted on 07/21/2004 12:27:54 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Trees on fire at Pipeline near 138. What's Pipeline?

I know Baker is a city on the way to Vegas..what else does it mean?


332 posted on 07/21/2004 12:36:32 PM PDT by lainie
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To: BurbankKarl

True. It was just such old info that I wondered why she was taking up airtime with yesterday afternoon's info. But they know what they're doing. Yeah I was wondering how the FF at home feel.. you know they must be itching to come help, but if they exhaust themselves out here and fire breaks near their engine home, .... you know.


333 posted on 07/21/2004 12:39:13 PM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie

If you crash from Baker to stateline, you are toast! No fire protection....if they need an air ambulance, it is most likely coming from Las Vegas. There is a litte fire truck in Baker, and if they get an accident call, the paid guy brings the truck to the prison, and the prison firefighters hop aboard and they take off, sometimes taking an hour to get there. And they are the first responders, others from Barstow, Phelan take 2 hours.


from the SBCFD website:

Baker is staffed with 1 combination employee who is a 40-hour a week Emergency Services Coordinator (non-safety) as well as the PCF Captain (safety). He is currently on-call most of the time. His fire crew comes from the low-security
Cornell Correctional Facility. Additionally there are two PCFs 24 hours a day.


334 posted on 07/21/2004 12:46:35 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Ohh I get it. Duh, I should have thought of that. Good info to know. So that's why dispatch always makes a big deal out of accidents on I-15 and I-40. I was wondering why I can basically tell you the status of the whole western desert but not necessarily what's going on right now in the nearest town to me.


335 posted on 07/21/2004 12:55:40 PM PDT by lainie
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Lots of Mohave activity but I hear very little on the hills, and no pilots at all. What did they switch to?


336 posted on 07/21/2004 1:17:28 PM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie

Now I hear CDF VICTOR AIR 122.9250 bitching that everyone's on the air-to-ground frequency and they can't get a word in edgewise. Guess that answers my question.

"I'm gonna have to get these people off this frequency, this is ridiculous."


337 posted on 07/21/2004 1:25:56 PM PDT by lainie
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98F, 14 mph out of the southwest, gusts to 20
on the desert floor


338 posted on 07/21/2004 1:53:23 PM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie

KFWB said 9000 acres, and that they were going to try a firing operations above little rock dam to protect houses...

I will see if Diet 9 news at 2pm sheds any light, other than Mia Lee being an ditz w/implants.


339 posted on 07/21/2004 1:54:24 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Two homes have been lost and hundreds are threatened by the 12,000 acre Crown Fire east of Acton that is 25 percent contained. 2,000 firefighters on the line face another day of battling the NE moving fire made worse by high temps of 100 degrees and winds up to 20 mph. Little Rock Reservoir area standby for evacuations.


340 posted on 07/21/2004 1:57:52 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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