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Poles angered by German claim of wartime damages
The Taipei Times ^ | Friday, Jul 16, 2004

Posted on 07/17/2004 8:24:36 AM PDT by lizol

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To: Joseph_CutlerUSA

Very well said and true.

Just let me add that the latent polish
sense of inferiority doesn`t make it
easier to get along with them on a
eye-to-eye base these days... they just often overact.

Hun,
having no probs with Oder-Neisse


61 posted on 07/17/2004 1:49:17 PM PDT by Hun in the sun
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To: Hun in the sun

You are really common joker and poor sociologist. Germans also have many things to say about Poland and Poles but in fact they know nothing about it and mostly never been there. They always talking about “good relationships” and in fact doing everything to keep status quo and your “smart” post is only next proof.


62 posted on 07/17/2004 2:07:03 PM PDT by Lukasz
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To: Lukasz

Sorry, but this is my personal experience, both in Poland and with the polish guys who are working here.


No offense intended,
my regards,
Hun


63 posted on 07/17/2004 2:11:18 PM PDT by Hun in the sun
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To: lizol

I really doubt that Germany wants to open the WWII war reparations issue. There isn't enough money in the world to settle the damages they caused.


64 posted on 07/17/2004 2:16:51 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: ApplegateRanch
WHO do they use for RAW materials now?? /gruesomeness

Oddly enough, when I saw the soap reference, THAT was my first thought, too...

66 posted on 07/17/2004 2:31:08 PM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (Meega, Nala Kweesta! So shines a good deed in a weary world...)
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To: anonymoussierra
The lady poster is axing Grzegorz 246 to translate #39. Since he hasn't responded, the cat'll take a shot at the first sentence:

"Niech mnie kurcze ktos przytrzyma bo jestem kompletnie w kurzona."

TRANSLATION:

Have, chicken, somebody hold me tight, 'coz I'm completely in chickened!"

67 posted on 07/17/2004 2:32:16 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Joseph_CutlerUSA

Yes, please see posts 36 and 37.


68 posted on 07/17/2004 2:40:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("A republic, if we can revive it")
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To: Michael81Dus
Michael, you know that I'm not anti German, however I'm a little surprised by your statement.

Mr. Bundespraesident Horst Kohler was born in 1943 near Zamosc(about 20 miles away from current Polish-Ukrainian border) in small village Skierbieszow.
In early 40s German government decided that this region will be colonized by German settlers.
Most of people who lived there were expelled - many of them straight to Auschwitz.

You said that this is not a part of "fatherland", however it is relevant to say that he was born on German soil.
No Michael, it is not relevant. He wasn't born on German soil.

I know that Horst Kohler is very well educated that he is former chief of IMF, however in this case it isn't advantage that he was born on Polish soil.
69 posted on 07/17/2004 2:43:03 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246 ("We in Poland don't know the term: peace at all costs.")
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To: Hun in the sun

Maybe you misunderstood their behavior, maybe they simply just don’t like Germans cause my personal experience is that mostly they are uncultured peoples, like tourists which have problems with their behavior even in church, in the middle of ceremony they are speaking loudly and made photos (week by week), or like children from high school in exchange when they were sat in the tram when old peoples stood in front of them. I even don’t mention present policy. Maybe this was your wishes thinking?


70 posted on 07/17/2004 2:48:02 PM PDT by Lukasz
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To: Joseph_CutlerUSA

Give my a break, you are the next specialist of polish sociology? If you don’t know, I tell you that Poland won MANY wars with Germany and Russia too (we have even Moscow for two years) and those two take all our lands only when they cooperated together, this was always key to victory.


71 posted on 07/17/2004 2:54:17 PM PDT by Lukasz
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To: Joseph_CutlerUSA

Joseph my boy, you can be sure that I don't have any complexes and fears.
You should stay in your room in Virginia, because it's your only sphere of influence.


72 posted on 07/17/2004 3:07:21 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246 ("We in Poland don't know the term: peace at all costs.")
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To: All
were taken by the conquering communists

[...]

]Poles took about 10% of German territory

History, history! We're flunking it. Nothing was "taken", nobody "took" (without permission , that is.)! It was given!


73 posted on 07/17/2004 3:14:06 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: lizol

It seems, krauts are suffering from the acute case of Let's-invade-Poland Compulsive Disoder...


74 posted on 07/17/2004 3:17:45 PM PDT by aliquis
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To: Lukasz

Hi Lukasz, I, my wife and another couple plan to Fly into Tegel, drive to Gdansk(staying in Sopot for several days) the first of Sept. before going south to Torun and Poznan and back to Berlin.. Is it foolhardy to attempt to visit Kallingrad? Is the border wait time really bad? Is there anything left of Koenigsberg after we get there? Is Catherines Amber room there or in St Pete? This kind of information is hard to come by for us. Would appreciate your opinion of the best division of 12 days along this route. Thanks in advance


75 posted on 07/17/2004 3:25:34 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: Michael81Dus

As Grzegorz 246 I'm a little bit surprissed with Your post. I must admit, that I feel dissapointed, because reading You previous comments Your seemed to me to be a sound, normal German (I mean not green-socialst) conservative guy. And now I found something like this.

Of course, I can undrestand that we in Poland and You in Germany can have different historical education but there are some limits I think. I fully agree with Grzegorz's remarks regarding to Paris. Mr Koehler was born on Polish soil, occupied by the Nazis, that in neither case can be named as German. And You maybe don't agree, but in my opinion it's just strange, that after 50 years and after having killed about 5-6 million of the Poles, after devastating our country, some Germans remind now, that we owe them anything.
And - last but not least - we weren't the ones who decided to move the Germans to the West. It was decided in Yalta, by Roosevelt, Stalin and Churchill. Nobody asked us if we wanted Wroclaw or Szczecin in exchange for Wilno or Lwow.


76 posted on 07/17/2004 3:45:26 PM PDT by lizol
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To: nkycincinnatikid
Border wait time isn't so bad. Usually you don't have to wait at all, sometimes 2 or 3 hours, but sometimes longer.
I have never been in Kallingrad, however I think that it isn't very interesting place.
Original Catherines Amber room was lost during revolution in Russia or WW2. Copy is in St Petersburg, but you should ask some user from Russia about it.
Russians have a lot antiques and other touristic (?)highlights, but mostly in St Petersburg and Moscow I think.
Vilno, capital of Lithuania may be more interesting.
77 posted on 07/17/2004 4:21:23 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246 ("We in Poland don't know the term: peace at all costs.")
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To: Revolting cat!

Moja cierpliwosc do was sie powoli konczy. I jescze jedna sprawa kretynie ja nie jest chlopakiem, naucz sie drugich jezykow to moze w tedy pogadamy.


79 posted on 07/17/2004 4:58:48 PM PDT by anonymoussierra (Hello to great America country Grupa Reagowania Operacyjno Mobilnego)
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To: anonymoussierra
w tedy

"W tedy"? learn to speak your own tongue, pal!

80 posted on 07/17/2004 6:06:04 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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