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To: madprof98; randog; Pharmboy; narses
So the latest thing in conservatives is the "personally opposed but" crowd? Maybe today's young people are so indoctrinated in individualism and relativism that they no longer even think about the quality of the larger society in which they will have to raise their children. But maybe this is just wishful thinking on the part of the NYTimes crowd. I certainly hope so. 2 posted on 07/17/2004 7:47:54 AM PDT by madprof98

The "libertarian" designation on social issues is utterly meaningless. No one is legally prevented from engaging in the private sexual recreation of their choice in modern America. There were plenty of condoms on display at the 7-11 last time I was there. I have no idea what these punks are thinking or talking about.

That you can't kill a baby remains a part of normal conservative values. Any would-be "conservative" who has a problem with that needs moral therapy. As a general principle, it might be a good idea for zine editors to limit awarding writing jobs to conservatives who have already matured beyond puberty.

Just as a footnote, there is NOTHING "libertarian" about forcing everyone in the country to accept the pro-sodomy ruling of a small clique of acitivst lesbian judges in Massachusetts. If they want "privacy" and freedom in the bedroom, the "don't ask, don't tell" policy on sodomy is the better alternative to state-licensed perversion. No homosexual or lesbian is currently prevented from copulating by any "conservative" policy.

23 posted on 07/17/2004 1:37:37 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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If they want "privacy" and freedom in the bedroom, the "don't ask, don't tell" policy on sodomy is the better alternative to state-licensed perversion. No homosexual or lesbian is currently prevented from copulating by any "conservative" policy.

As soon as something becomes fairly well accepted as a commonsensical virtue, some people in robes are going to turn around and coerce it. Example:

The virtue: it is a virtue to live and let live.
The coercion: we had SCOTUS torture the Constitution to ban any state, village, or town from having an anti-sodomy law.

The virtue: one should treat a gay couple with dignity - they have the same feelings of love and loss that hets do.
The coercion: Massachusetts SJC tortures its Constitution to ban any distinction between heterosexual and homosexual marriage.

30 posted on 07/17/2004 1:58:55 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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