Posted on 07/16/2004 6:28:10 PM PDT by quidnunc
Chechnya sovereign mother territory?
1830s Czar Nicholas I invades Caucasus, meets fierce resistance.
1859 Russia conquers, incorporates Caucasus.
1917 Russian Revolution, Dagestan (including Chechnya) declares its independence.
1944 Stalin deports thousands of Chechens to Siberia and Kazakhstan, on suspicion of collaborating with Germany.
1991 Soviet Union collapses, 14 regions become independent nations. Dzhokhar Dudayev elected president of Chechnya. Dudayev declares Chechnya independent. Russian President Boris Yeltsin refuses to recognize Chechen independence, sends troops. Confronted by armed Chechens, troops withdraw
Interesting.
They are incredibly thorough. They look for anything out of the ordinary. My wife and I have different last names on our passports due to our being married just ten years and when she went to renew hers she did not have an original marriage cert. so they told her she could not make the change.
So the Israelis siezed on this at every opportunity and pulled us aside. We were with a mission but arrived and departed on our own schedule so we didn't have the protection of the group. She's also quite semitic looking and I'm sure that didn't help.
We had some problems with her papers while over there and had to go to E. Jeruslem to the consulate. That was fun. Standing in line in an arab area with a bunch of arabs. We didn't know enough to travel to the Tel Aviv consular office.
You wouldn't want to do what you did in '98 now. Actually you were not safe then. Now you would be a real bullseye.
I'll probably never go back to Israel. I found it a litter strewn ugly place with way too much tension. Once in a while I got that 'biblical' feeling here and there but it didn't last long with all the trash strewn everywhere.
ping to 77.
ping to 77
I am sort of intrigued by the patriots on the thread who seem to get a kick out of harassing security by carrying metal cards that set off alarms, refuse to take off boots, are intentionally making the process harder. That hardly seems like actions of adults who want security to work.
That said, I fly about twenty times a year on business. TSA seems to be doing a good job to me. It is not their fault that they are hamstrung by pc concerns. Sure, Israeli screeners would do a better job. But is anyone seriously thinking there are enough Israelis to do the job.
I've never been harassed. I've checked out things being the nosey person I am and the only thing amiss I ever saw was a person wanding a baby's diaper. Perhaps it depends on where the airport is.
how about just "American"?
lose the hyphens already.
I agree. Works for me.
Maybe I should've clarified that to "screeners who abuse their power". My mistake.
And they are looking for the wrong people, every time they search people who don't fit the profiles.
No, it's not bringing Israeli screeners here to do the job, but to TRAIN the government-union ass-monkeys we've allowed the Daschles of this country to hire at taxpayer expense. That's the problem.
Since we're hamstrung with this politically-correct hogwash, I believe ANY screener who intentionally makes it hard on an average-looking white guy, should him/herself be subjected to a humiliating, pointless shakedown.
It comes from FR, like all good lines.
Total ditto. What you said. I stop short of hyphenation.
Dan
It's going to take a while to get this thing squared away,screenout the bad screeners, bring some common sense to the system(Common sense in a gov. Bureaucracy, don't hold your breath). I just hope and pray that it won't take another 9-11 to bring it about.
I think that is quite true. Anyone could, wittingly or unwittingly, help terrorists. Exclusive reliance on profiling would be stupid and dangerous. But if, as this story – at least seems – to imply, suspicious behavior is ignored (perhaps because of the ethnic identity of the people engaging in the activity) then something is wrong. I do not know what the ‘rules of engagement’ for air marshals are, but this type of behavior by any ethnic group seems suspicious.
We know they are trying to hit us – it will likely be in ways we have not thought of.
I prefer Useless Americans. Based on the ones who always seem to make the news, including the Kennecott man fiasco. Whiners and controlling useless twits, all...
But not the right to jack around a whole culture to their changing whims. And I reserve the right to call them anything I want. No problem.
It's not rocket science.
Making failure to go along with the name change "racist" or literally claiming to be dissed, followed by tribal primitive behavior (physical threats, or worse) clearly identifies the practice as intimidation.
It's not as if black people had a say in this country as to what they were called. It's not about changing whims. Did you ever stop to think about the reasons behind it? I'm not threatened by somone who wants to call themselves 'african-american'. I think the hypenations are silly. What culture is being jacked around? American culture? I don't see how someone saying they're hyphenated something is jacking around a culture except to say they'd be separating themselves from American culture at large. Staying in one's own little circle is hardly healthy.
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